Re: Problem with gnus-article-hide-citation

[Katsumi Yamaoka <yamaoka@jpl.org>]

>>>>> David Engster wrote:
> [Followup from gnus.bug]

> Tyler Spivey <tspivey@pcdesk.net> writes:
>> I'll try to describe this bug as best I can, so hopefully it can get
>> fixed. When I press WWc on a message, then start cursoring around the
>> article buffer, the > characters are still in it. They aren't visible
>> on the screen, but I am blind and use an emacs speech package which
>> picks them up. To reproduce this, press WWc on a message, then put
>> point on the first character of any remaining text that wasn't hidden
>> (below the buttons). press C-a C-b, the cursor should be on a blank
>> line, but note that if you press C-x = the current character is a >.
>> Also, if you hit C-a on that line, it'll jump you to the next line.

> I can confirm this behavior. I'm not sure why this is happening and if
> this is actually a bug in Gnus or in Emacs. I always thought that the
> user commands for cursor navigation would skip over hidden text, but in
> the first column in the line after the button, the point position is
> indeed on the beginning of the hidden citation, usually containing a
">".

> I tried putting the hidden text directly after the button (i.e. in the
> same line). It is still accessible, but it would be at a line ending and
> not at the beginning of the next line, which I guess would at least
> solve the above problem?

> Other suggestions?

I doubted the behavior of C-a (i.e. move-beginning-of-line) is
really useful.  It moves the point to the next visible field,
but shouldn't it be the end of the previous visible field (or
the beginning of the buffer)?  Anyway, how about trying the
following for a while?  It is just what Emacs 21 does:

(global-set-key "\C-a" 'beginning-of-line)

BTW, doesn't Emacspeak provide an option that controls whether
to speak invisible text?  I think invisible text should not be
seen by default both to eyes and to ears.

Regards,