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From: Katsumi Yamaoka <yamaoka@jpl.org>
To: Sven Joachim <svenjoac@gmx.de>
Cc: bugs@gnus.org, ding@gnus.org
Subject: Re: Huge memory consumption on accessing large newsgroup
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 18:08:10 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b4m3ayriwp1.fsf@jpl.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87wsw4u21m.fsf@gmx.de>

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(I added the ding list to Cc.)

>>>>> Sven Joachim wrote:

> Gnus v5.11
> GNU Emacs 22.1.50.1 (i486-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.10.13)
>  of 2007-08-06 on debian, modified by Debian
> 200 news.motzarella.org InterNetNews NNRP server INN 2.4.4 (20060818 snapshot) ready (posting ok).

I visited http://news.motzarella.org/ and got an account on
Motzarella out of curiosity. ;-)

> When accessing comp.os.linux.misc on news.motzarella.org, a _very_
> large newsgroup with more than 30,000,000 articles, Emacs' memory
> footprint grew heavily.

Yes, now the ACTIVE of that group is:


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However, I verified there are actually no more than less than
3,000 articles.  It should not be a cause of this problem.

> It took ~2 minutes to display its question
> "How many articles...?" and the memory usage was at 555 MB (RSS).
> When I answered "500" and the summary buffer finally appeared, it grew
> up to 893 MB.  Which is a bit scary, since my computer has "only" 1 GB
> of RAM and is now already paging quite a bit.

> Will this become better if I subscribe to the newsgroup and catch up?
> In any case I probably will have to kill my current Emacs session soon.

The real cause is that Gnus first expands this ACTIVE data into:

(3437 3438 3439 3440 ...... 30538696 30538697 30538698 30538699)

If you run Emacs on a super computer, try this:


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I think the possible solution is to narrow the range into the
one with which Emacs can work lightly.  Here it is:


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The 10000 will probably need to be a customizable variable.  I'm
going to do it next week.

BTW, I needed to set the server variable `nntp-authinfo-force'
to t in order to let No Gnus v0.7 send the AUTHINFO data to the
Motzarella server as follows:

(nntp "motzarella"
      (nntp-address "news.motzarella.org")
      (nntp-authinfo-user "yamaoka")
      (nntp-authinfo-password "********")
      (nntp-authinfo-force t)
      ...)

I guess you have the FORCE element in the ~/.authinfo file since
such a server variable has not been implemented yet in Gnus v5.11.

Regards,

       reply	other threads:[~2007-08-10  9:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <87wsw4u21m.fsf@gmx.de>
2007-08-10  9:08 ` Katsumi Yamaoka [this message]
2007-08-10 11:39   ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2007-08-10 12:43     ` Sven Joachim
2007-08-13 11:44       ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2007-08-13 17:30         ` Sven Joachim
2007-08-14 11:46           ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2007-09-13 10:27             ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2007-08-10 12:42   ` Sven Joachim
2007-09-29 21:04     ` Gaute Strokkenes
2007-09-30 22:11       ` Ted Zlatanov
2007-10-01  0:29         ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2007-10-01  1:04         ` Daniel Pittman
2007-10-02  2:13           ` Ted Zlatanov
2007-10-02  3:23             ` Daniel Pittman
2007-10-02 11:11               ` Ted Zlatanov
2007-10-02 12:17                 ` Daniel Pittman
2007-10-02 16:08                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2007-10-03  0:19                     ` Daniel Pittman
2007-10-02 13:33               ` Daniel Pittman

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