From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/61446 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Katsumi Yamaoka Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Gnus tool bar, removal? Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2005 08:06:39 +0900 Organization: Emacsen advocacy group Message-ID: References: <87acfnakhk.fsf@nowhere.org> <87acfnpaej.fsf@nowhere.org> <87wtirdpa2.fsf@nowhere.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1133392327 16720 80.91.229.2 (30 Nov 2005 23:12:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 23:12:07 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+m9976@lists.math.uh.edu Thu Dec 01 00:11:56 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ehb5G-0003o6-Rf for ding-account@gmane.org; Thu, 01 Dec 2005 00:09:55 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1Ehb5C-0002oz-00; Wed, 30 Nov 2005 17:09:50 -0600 Original-Received: from nas02.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.40]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1Ehb2S-0002ou-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Wed, 30 Nov 2005 17:07:00 -0600 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by nas02.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Ehb2N-00062I-Jm for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Wed, 30 Nov 2005 17:07:00 -0600 Original-Received: from washington.hostforweb.net ([66.225.201.13]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1Ehb2J-0005tt-00 for ; Thu, 01 Dec 2005 00:06:51 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39182) by washington.hostforweb.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.52) id 1Ehb2P-00012z-RC for ding@gnus.org; Wed, 30 Nov 2005 17:06:58 -0600 Original-Newsgroups: comp.emacs.xemacs X-Face: #kKnN,xUnmKia.'[pp`;Omh}odZK)?7wQSl"4o04=EixTF+V[""w~iNbM9ZL+.b*_CxUmFk B#Fu[*?MZZH@IkN:!"\w%I_zt>[$nm7nQosZ<3eu;B:$Q_:p!',P.c0-_Cy[dz4oIpw0ESA^D*1Lw= L&i*6&( User-Agent: Gnus/5.110004 (No Gnus v0.4) XEmacs/21.5-b23 (linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:bfQHieVk0ibAf+Idel0NRUzI+eo= X-Hashcash: 1:20:051130:ding@gnus.org::R+tdmdv/7YsnGPqK:00004XP3 Posted-To: comp.emacs.xemacs X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - washington.hostforweb.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - gnus.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - jpl.org X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) Precedence: bulk Original-Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:61446 Archived-At: Newsgroups: comp.emacs.xemacs Cc: ding@gnus.org > On Tue, Nov 29 2005, Surendra Singhi wrote in comp.emacs.xemacs: >> Hello, >> I have removed the default XEmacs toolbar using >> >> (set-specifier default-toolbar-visible-p nil) >> >> in my init file. >> >> Earlier there used to be no toolbar for gnus in XEmacs, but I recently >> upgraded to the latest pre-release of gnus, and this causes a toolbar to pop >> up whenever I start gnus. How can I remove it? >>>>> In Reiner Steib wrote: > I think `message-use-toolbar' and `gnus-use-toolbar' should default to > nil if `default-toolbar-visible-p' is nil (at least if this is the > standard XEmacs way to disable the toolbar). I've changed those default values from: (if (featurep 'toolbar) 'default) to: (if (and (featurep 'toolbar) (specifier-instance default-toolbar-visible-p)) 'default) in the CVS repositories. It will help users who always turn off the toolbars. However, to turn off the toolbars using the menubar item (Options>Display>Toolbars Visible) after starting up Gnus doesn't affect Gnus' toolbars. The main problem is that setting `gnus-use-toolbar' and `message-use-toolbar' to the value `default' doesn't mean to use the `default-toolbar', since it cannot be controlled by the menubar. I have no idea to improve it, sorry.