From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/64623 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Katsumi Yamaoka Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Ugly In-Reply-To? Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 09:15:27 +0900 Organization: Emacsen advocacy group Message-ID: References: <871whsn6dz.fsf@mocca.josefsson.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1178842598 19277 80.91.229.12 (11 May 2007 00:16:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 00:16:38 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M13134@lists.math.uh.edu Fri May 11 02:16:37 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HmIoG-0001cu-Lu for ding-account@gmane.org; Fri, 11 May 2007 02:16:36 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HmInL-0005kk-HK; Thu, 10 May 2007 19:15:39 -0500 Original-Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HmInJ-0005kU-Mo for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 10 May 2007 19:15:37 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HmInI-0003Bd-Ol for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 10 May 2007 19:15:37 -0500 Original-Received: from orlando.hostforweb.net ([216.246.45.90]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1HmInH-0005Kq-00 for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 02:15:35 +0200 Original-Received: from [66.225.201.151] (port=33646 helo=mail.jpl.org) by orlando.hostforweb.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HmInK-0008Bb-MR for ding@gnus.org; Thu, 10 May 2007 19:15:39 -0500 X-Hashcash: 1:20:070511:ding@gnus.org::3X1To2bOxBBUyQtw:00002BKB X-Face: #kKnN,xUnmKia.'[pp`;Omh}odZK)?7wQSl"4o04=EixTF+V[""w~iNbM9ZL+.b*_CxUmFk B#Fu[*?MZZH@IkN:!"\w%I_zt>[$nm7nQosZ<3eu;B:$Q_:p!',P.c0-_Cy[dz4oIpw0ESA^D*1Lw= L&i*6&( User-Agent: Gnus/5.110007 (No Gnus v0.7) Emacs/22.1.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:vzIrdBlYmQHNtClfcrKxIKfGljQ= X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - orlando.hostforweb.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - gnus.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - jpl.org X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:64623 Archived-At: >>>>> In >>>>> Reiner Steib wrote: > On Thu, May 10 2007, Katsumi Yamaoka wrote: >>>>>>> In <871whsn6dz.fsf@mocca.josefsson.org> Simon Josefsson wrote: >>> In-Reply-To: >>> (Foo Bar's message of "Mon\, 7 May 2007 14\:46\:18 +0200") >> >>> Are the quotes '"' and backslashes '\' necessary? > [...] >> (This change needs to be tested widely before merging it to the >> v5-10 branch because headers for which the `r-q-s-c-i-q-s' function >> is used are not only In-Reply-To.) > I'd suggest not to install it in v5-10 before Emacs 22.1 is released. Agreed. I was not going to do so. > Is the extra quoting incorrect or only ugly? I'm not quite sure of it but I think quoting some characters within parentheses is needless though doing it is harmless. It is because the In-Reply-To header seems to have to be built like To or From header because `rfc2047-header-encoding-alist' says that it should be treated like an address header. If so, the place within parentheses allows any character iff it doesn't break the parentheses matching, i.e., they all don't require quoting, and it leads to only the issue whether it is ugly or not. However, there is a special example. If the original message has no header containing Message-IDs, 'message-make-in-reply-to' will create the In-Reply-To header like the following: I don't know whether we can say such one is a structured header like To or From, but Gnus still quotes tspecial characters in it because there is no parenthesis. It only makes it ugly. Regards,