From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/81789 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Katsumi Yamaoka Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: No way to make a given single article un-unseen ! Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2012 13:19:46 +0900 Organization: Emacsen advocacy group Message-ID: References: <877gx595cn.fsf@jidanni.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1335241235 4428 80.91.229.3 (24 Apr 2012 04:20:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2012 04:20:35 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M30061@lists.math.uh.edu Tue Apr 24 06:20:34 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SMXEu-0000c6-FC for ding-account@gmane.org; Tue, 24 Apr 2012 06:20:32 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1SMXEd-000442-88; Mon, 23 Apr 2012 23:20:15 -0500 Original-Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1SMXEa-00043f-47 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Mon, 23 Apr 2012 23:20:12 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SMXEW-0000dc-PG for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Mon, 23 Apr 2012 23:20:09 -0500 Original-Received: from orlando.hostforweb.net ([216.246.45.90]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SMXEU-0006pz-VD for ding@gnus.org; Tue, 24 Apr 2012 06:20:07 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33661) by orlando.hostforweb.net with smtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SMXEL-0002gL-Kh for ding@gnus.org; Mon, 23 Apr 2012 23:19:57 -0500 X-Face: #kKnN,xUnmKia.'[pp`;Omh}odZK)?7wQSl"4o04=EixTF+V[""w~iNbM9ZL+.b*_CxUmFk B#Fu[*?MZZH@IkN:!"\w%I_zt>[$nm7nQosZ<3eu;B:$Q_:p!',P.c0-_Cy[dz4oIpw0ESA^D*1Lw= L&i*6&( User-Agent: Gnus/5.130004 (=?iso-2022-jp?B?GyRCPz8bKEI=?= Gnus v0.4) Emacs/24.1.50 (i686-pc-cygwin) Cancel-Lock: sha1:wF6CklVQUSB1Va+ETiZAU/EM7ho= X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - orlando.hostforweb.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - gnus.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - jpl.org X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:81789 Archived-At: jidanni@jidanni.org wrote: > Gentlemen, in (info "(gnus) Other Marks") > * Articles that haven't been seen before in Gnus by the user are > marked with a `.' in the second column (`gnus-unseen-mark'). > But ah ha, there is no way to reverse this going away for a given single > article! You have now seen it, and next time you enter the group its > unseen mark is gone, with no way to get it back for one given single article! > But why would you want it back? Don't ask such questions, just make > there be a way! I don't know why, but unseen articles are labeled as `seen' when exiting a group: (defun gnus-update-marks () [...] (when (eq (cdr type) 'seen) (setq list (gnus-range-add list gnus-newsgroup-unseen))) Entering a group may mean a user sees unseen articles (at least those subjects or existence). I vaguely think it would be convenient to make the unseen marks remain unless those bodies have been read, though.