From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/62876 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Katsumi Yamaoka Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Mime types and attached files Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 19:15:17 +0900 Organization: Emacsen advocacy group Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1145269065 7095 80.91.229.2 (17 Apr 2006 10:17:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 10:17:45 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ding-owner+m11403@lists.math.uh.edu Mon Apr 17 12:17:43 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FVQna-00045V-T7 for ding-account@gmane.org; Mon, 17 Apr 2006 12:17:39 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1FVQnW-0000Ld-00; Mon, 17 Apr 2006 05:17:34 -0500 Original-Received: from nas01.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.39]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1FVQlY-0000LX-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Mon, 17 Apr 2006 05:15:32 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by nas01.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FVQlV-0002nZ-Lj for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Mon, 17 Apr 2006 05:15:31 -0500 Original-Received: from washington.hostforweb.net ([66.225.201.13]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1FVQlQ-0007d1-00 for ; Mon, 17 Apr 2006 12:15:24 +0200 Original-Received: from [205.234.185.198] (port=35359 helo=mail.jpl.org) by washington.hostforweb.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.52) id 1FVQox-0003Vf-8C for ding@gnus.org; Mon, 17 Apr 2006 05:19:03 -0500 Original-To: ding@gnus.org X-Hashcash: 1:20:060417:ding@gnus.org::FfX+7MG3VdNQWUZe:00003S5J X-Face: #kKnN,xUnmKia.'[pp`;Omh}odZK)?7wQSl"4o04=EixTF+V[""w~iNbM9ZL+.b*_CxUmFk B#Fu[*?MZZH@IkN:!"\w%I_zt>[$nm7nQosZ<3eu;B:$Q_:p!',P.c0-_Cy[dz4oIpw0ESA^D*1Lw= L&i*6&( User-Agent: Gnus/5.110005 (No Gnus v0.5) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:EuIuBfmVv59OsyXVWBOX6cefOO4= X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - washington.hostforweb.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - gnus.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - jpl.org X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) Precedence: bulk Original-Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:62876 Archived-At: >>>>> In >>>>> Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen wrote: > Katsumi Yamaoka writes: >> However, I must evaluate the form[1] >> >> (defalias 'mail-header-encode-parameter 'rfc2047-encode-parameter) >> >> when sending files with Japanese names in business. That's very >> annoying, though I never want to make it the default (so, I >> restore it into `rfc2231-encode-string' after sending a mail). > Well -- why not make it the default? We know that a large number of > mail readers out there don't support RFC2231, and we know that most > mail readers support RFC2047 parameter decoding. (Are there any that > don't? I mean, that don't support RFC2047 parameter encoding, but do > support RFC2231?) The reasons I wouldn't like to make it the default are: The RFC2047-like encoding has not been documented as a standard as far as I know. I don't know how it has been decided reasonably and democratically. The specification doesn't seem to have been unified in mailers that use it. For instance, I heard that some mailer works with a parameter in which a long encoded file name is folded but others don't. Because of this, I designed `rfc2047-encode-parameter' so as not to fold an encoded file name no matter how it is long. Therefore, it potentially violates the rule that maximum length of lines is restricted by some RFCs. > So to make life easier for everybody I propose making > `rfc2047-encode-parameter' the default. I swim with the tide. ;-) I wish it weren't an obstruction to Thunderbird's lofty ambition, though.