Message contains characters with unknown encoding. Really send? (y or n)

Message contains characters with unknown encoding. Really send? (y or n)

[jidanni]

There I was, using NNRSS, when I was asked
  "Message contains characters with unknown encoding.  Really send? (y or n)"

Well, as you can expect, I thought "huh, am I about to send an email?"

So what this message means is "really send such characters to your terminal?"

Therefore better wording is needed.

Re: Message contains characters with unknown encoding. Really send? (y or n)

[Ted Zlatanov]

On Mon, 13 Jul 2009 20:25:33 +0800 jidanni@jidanni.org wrote: 

j> There I was, using NNRSS, when I was asked
j>   "Message contains characters with unknown encoding.  Really send? (y or n)"

j> Well, as you can expect, I thought "huh, am I about to send an email?"

j> So what this message means is "really send such characters to your terminal?"

j> Therefore better wording is needed.

I don't see any place in nnrss.el where this message could have
originated (or you could have entered message-mode).  Can you replicate
the circumstances so I can try to track this down?

Thanks
Ted

Re: Message contains characters with unknown encoding. Really send? (y or n)

[Reiner Steib]

On Wed, Jul 15 2009, Ted Zlatanov wrote:

> On Mon, 13 Jul 2009 20:25:33 +0800 jidanni@jidanni.org wrote: 
>
> j> There I was, using NNRSS, when I was asked
> j>   "Message contains characters with unknown encoding.  Really send? (y or n)"
>
> j> Well, as you can expect, I thought "huh, am I about to send an email?"
>
> j> So what this message means is "really send such characters to your terminal?"
>
> j> Therefore better wording is needed.
>
> I don't see any place in nnrss.el where this message could have
> originated (or you could have entered message-mode).  Can you replicate
> the circumstances so I can try to track this down?

jidanni, set debug-on-quit to t, reproduce the message, press C-g when
prompted and post the resulting backtrace.

Bye, Reiner.
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Re: Message contains characters with unknown encoding. Really send? (y or n)

[Katsumi Yamaoka]

>>>>> Reiner Steib wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 15 2009, Ted Zlatanov wrote:
>> On Mon, 13 Jul 2009 20:25:33 +0800 jidanni@jidanni.org wrote:
>> j> There I was, using NNRSS, when I was asked
>> j>   "Message contains characters with unknown encoding.  Really send? (y or n)"
[...]

It's issued by `mml-to-mime' that nnrss uses for making a MIME
article from html data.  The sequence is:

nnrss-request-article
  mml-to-mime
    message-encode-message-body
      mml-generate-mime
        mml-parse
          mml-parse-1

If html data contain funny characters, maybe as MML functions are
assumed to be used for message sending, such a prompt is issued.
The possible solutions might be:

1. Allow nnrss to generate articles with no query even if it might
   cause unreadable articles.

--- nnrss.el~	2009-01-22 08:09:02 +0000
+++ nnrss.el	2009-07-15 22:41:29 +0000
@@ -313 +313,3 @@
-	      (mml-to-mime)
+	      (let ((mml-confirmation-set
+		     (cons 'unknown-encoding mml-confirmation-set)))
+		(mml-to-mime))

2. Make the prompt message general, like:
   "...Really send? (y or n) " -> "...Continue? (y or n) "

I vote for 1.

Re: Message contains characters with unknown encoding. Really send? (y or n)

[Ted Zlatanov]

On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 07:42:51 +0900 Katsumi Yamaoka <yamaoka@jpl.org> wrote: 

>>>>>> Reiner Steib wrote:
>> On Wed, Jul 15 2009, Ted Zlatanov wrote:
>>> On Mon, 13 Jul 2009 20:25:33 +0800 jidanni@jidanni.org wrote:
j> There I was, using NNRSS, when I was asked
j> "Message contains characters with unknown encoding.  Really send? (y or n)"
KY> [...]

KY> It's issued by `mml-to-mime' that nnrss uses for making a MIME
KY> article from html data.  The sequence is:

KY> nnrss-request-article
KY>   mml-to-mime
KY>     message-encode-message-body
KY>       mml-generate-mime
KY>         mml-parse
KY>           mml-parse-1

KY> If html data contain funny characters, maybe as MML functions are
KY> assumed to be used for message sending, such a prompt is issued.
KY> The possible solutions might be:

KY> 1. Allow nnrss to generate articles with no query even if it might
KY>    cause unreadable articles.

KY> --- nnrss.el~	2009-01-22 08:09:02 +0000
KY> +++ nnrss.el	2009-07-15 22:41:29 +0000
KY> @@ -313 +313,3 @@
KY> -	      (mml-to-mime)
KY> +	      (let ((mml-confirmation-set
KY> +		     (cons 'unknown-encoding mml-confirmation-set)))
KY> +		(mml-to-mime))

KY> 2. Make the prompt message general, like:
KY>    "...Really send? (y or n) " -> "...Continue? (y or n) "

KY> I vote for 1.

My vote is for 1 as well.  Thanks for looking into this!

Ted