something changed in handling levels?

something changed in handling levels?

[Dan Nicolaescu]

I am using gnus from emacs CVS. I always set the level for the archive
groups to 6.
Now (probably after gnus was updated in emacs CVS) I cannot see my old
archive groups. If I edit ~/.newsrc.eld and change the level from 6 to
5 for any of the groups the group appears again.
I don't fiddle with the levels in .gnus.el or .emacs

Did anything about that level handling change?

Thanks

        --dan

Re: something changed in handling levels?

[Dan Nicolaescu]

Dan Nicolaescu <dann@ics.uci.edu> writes:

  > I am using gnus from emacs CVS. I always set the level for the archive
  > groups to 6.
  > Now (probably after gnus was updated in emacs CVS) I cannot see my old
  > archive groups. If I edit ~/.newsrc.eld and change the level from 6 to
  > 5 for any of the groups the group appears again.
 ^^^^^
Oops, typo, that should be 4. 

Archive groups seem to be considered foreign, foreign-level is set to 4
in gnus-get-unread-articles. The result is that archive groups with a
level >= 5 are not shown at all. 

This worked just fine in emacs-22.1. 

Can someone fix this please?

Thanks
        --dan

Re: something changed in handling levels?

[Reiner Steib]

On Tue, Nov 13 2007, Dan Nicolaescu wrote:

> Archive groups seem to be considered foreign, foreign-level is set to 4
> in gnus-get-unread-articles. The result is that archive groups with a
> level >= 5 are not shown at all. 
>
> This worked just fine in emacs-22.1. 

Does it work if you'd revert `gnus-get-unread-articles' to the version
in Emacs 22.1?

If so, it looks like an intended change.  Katsumi, could you explain,
please?

,----[ gnus-start.el ]
| revision 7.17
| date: 2004/05/21 04:03:38;  author: yamaoka;  state: Exp;  lines: +5 -3
| (gnus-get-unread-articles): Fix previous commit.
| ----------------------------
| revision 7.16
| date: 2004/05/21 00:34:56;  author: yamaoka;  state: Exp;  lines: +1 -1
| (gnus-get-unread-articles): Don't invalidate active for foreign groups even
|  if the group level is higher than the specified value.
| ----------------------------
| [...]
| ----------------------------
| revision 7.13
| date: 2004/05/19 01:00:08;  author: yamaoka;  state: Exp;  lines: +13 -11
| (gnus-get-unread-articles): Do nothing for foreign groups if the group level
|  is higher than the specified value.
`----

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Re: something changed in handling levels?

[Dan Nicolaescu]

Reiner Steib <reinersteib+gmane@imap.cc> writes:

  > On Tue, Nov 13 2007, Dan Nicolaescu wrote:
  > 
  > > Archive groups seem to be considered foreign, foreign-level is set to 4
  > > in gnus-get-unread-articles. The result is that archive groups with a
  > > level >= 5 are not shown at all. 
  > >
  > > This worked just fine in emacs-22.1. 
  > 
  > Does it work if you'd revert `gnus-get-unread-articles' to the version
  > in Emacs 22.1?

Yes, it does.

Re: something changed in handling levels?

[Katsumi Yamaoka]

>>>>> Reiner Steib wrote:

> If so, it looks like an intended change.  Katsumi, could you explain,
> please?

> ,----[ gnus-start.el ]
>| revision 7.17
>| date: 2004/05/21 04:03:38;  author: yamaoka;  state: Exp;  lines: +5 -3
>| (gnus-get-unread-articles): Fix previous commit.
>| ----------------------------
>| revision 7.16
>| date: 2004/05/21 00:34:56;  author: yamaoka;  state: Exp;  lines: +1 -1
>| (gnus-get-unread-articles): Don't invalidate active for foreign groups even
>|  if the group level is higher than the specified value.
>| ----------------------------
>| [...]
>| ----------------------------
>| revision 7.13
>| date: 2004/05/19 01:00:08;  author: yamaoka;  state: Exp;  lines: +13 -11
>| (gnus-get-unread-articles): Do nothing for foreign groups if the group level
>|  is higher than the specified value.
> `----

Sorry for my lazy response.  Those changes were for fixing a
problem brought by the new nntp marks feature:

http://news.gmane.org/group/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/thread=57281
The beginning article that is missing of this thread is here:
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/57281

I need time to know what it does and what is wrong...

Regards,

Re: something changed in handling levels?

[Katsumi Yamaoka]

>>>>> On Sun, 11 Nov, Dan Nicolaescu wrote:

> I am using gnus from emacs CVS. I always set the level for the archive
> groups to 6.
> Now (probably after gnus was updated in emacs CVS) I cannot see my old
> archive groups.

>>>>> Katsumi Yamaoka wrote:

> Sorry for my lazy response.  Those changes were for fixing a
> problem brought by the new nntp marks feature:

> http://news.gmane.org/group/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/thread=57281
> The beginning article that is missing of this thread is here:
> http://article.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/57281

> I need time to know what it does and what is wrong...

I've fixed it in the Gnus CVS trunk.  Now Gnus should check for
articles of which the group levels are <=6 for all the groups
unless a group level is specified as an argument (i.e. a prefix
argument that a user gives to the `gnus-group-get-new-news'
command or the `gnus' command).

Probably the bad thing I did 3.5 years ago was that I verified
the modified `gnus-get-unread-articles' function for only the
case where a user specifies a group level (I usually do it).
I'm sorry to trouble you all.

Regards,

Re: something changed in handling levels?

[Katsumi Yamaoka]

>>>>> Katsumi Yamaoka wrote:

> I've fixed it in the Gnus CVS trunk.

Er, it might be due to this change, now `l' (gnus-group-list-groups)
and `L' (gnus-group-list-all-groups) don't work.  I.e., groups of
which the group levels are higher than the one a user specified
to the `gnus' command as the argument (I usually use `M-1 M-x gnus'
or `M-2 M-x gnus' to start Gnus) never appear in the group buffer
with those commands.  I'm going to fix this problem ASAP.

Re: something changed in handling levels?

[Katsumi Yamaoka]

>>>>> Katsumi Yamaoka wrote:

>> I've fixed it in the Gnus CVS trunk.

> Er, it might be due to this change, now `l' (gnus-group-list-groups)
> and `L' (gnus-group-list-all-groups) don't work.

Fixed.

Re: something changed in handling levels?

[Dan Nicolaescu]

Katsumi Yamaoka <yamaoka@jpl.org> writes:

  > >>>>> Katsumi Yamaoka wrote:
  > 
  > >> I've fixed it in the Gnus CVS trunk.
  > 
  > > Er, it might be due to this change, now `l' (gnus-group-list-groups)
  > > and `L' (gnus-group-list-all-groups) don't work.
  > 
  > Fixed.

Thanks, it works. (The Gnus CVS trunk was finally merged to emacs CVS
trunk so I was able to test this)