From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/69230 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Katsumi Yamaoka Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Mail mode vs message mode Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 09:32:01 +0900 Message-ID: References: <87639beb4n.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <876399p00j.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87iqd8rh73.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> <87r5rvvknw.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87lji3od0l.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> <87vdh6focv.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87pr7aftaj.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> <871vjmcmgh.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> <87skc03tsk.fsf@stupidchicken.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1259454761 7537 80.91.229.12 (29 Nov 2009 00:32:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 00:32:41 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Katsumi Yamaoka , ding@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Chong Yidong Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Nov 29 01:32:34 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1NEXiK-0001LB-VC for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 01:32:33 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38387 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NEXiK-0001Ea-G5 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 19:32:32 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NEXiC-0001Bx-GT for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 19:32:24 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NEXi6-00018I-D9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 19:32:22 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=59585 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NEXi6-00018A-6F for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 19:32:18 -0500 Original-Received: from washington.hostforweb.net ([66.225.201.13]:42020) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NEXi5-0005fs-Sh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 19:32:17 -0500 Original-Received: from softbank218118002009.bbtec.net ([218.118.2.9]:38810 helo=) by washington.hostforweb.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NEXhp-0006Qa-Kb; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 18:32:02 -0600 X-Face: #kKnN,xUnmKia.'[pp`; Omh}odZK)?7wQSl"4o04=EixTF+V[""w~iNbM9ZL+.b*_CxUmFk B#Fu[*?MZZH@IkN:!"\w%I_zt>[$nm7nQosZ<3eu; B:$Q_:p!',P.c0-_Cy[dz4oIpw0ESA^D*1Lw= L&i*6&( User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/23.1.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:1G+ve9oC8w4HKPWszU2L5DiYD7k= X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - washington.hostforweb.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - jpl.org X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:117912 gmane.emacs.gnus.general:69230 Archived-At: >>>>> In <87skc03tsk.fsf@stupidchicken.com> >>>>> Chong Yidong wrote: > Katsumi Yamaoka writes: > > How about using the value of mail-* if and only if the value of > > mail-* is customized by a user or its default value is suitable > > to Gnus? > I would prefer a direct check for the Emacs version instead, if you want > to avoid the mail-* variables for older Emacsen. It will be something like: (defcustom message-yank-prefix (if (featurep 'xemacs) "> " (if (or (string-match "\\`23\\.1\\.5[0-9]\\.[0-9]*\\'" emacs-version) (>= emacs-major-version 24) (and (= emacs-major-version 23) (>= emacs-minor-version 2))) mail-yank-prefix "> ")) "doc string") But I don't find a meaningful difference in it from: (defcustom message-yank-prefix "> " "doc string") In other words, I'd prefer to revert the recent changes in message.el. Regards,