From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/68978 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Katsumi Yamaoka Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Gnus and No Gnus Date: Wed, 09 Sep 2009 18:31:31 +0900 Organization: Emacsen advocacy group Message-ID: References: <1xfxaxlx7n.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1252488723 24662 80.91.229.12 (9 Sep 2009 09:32:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 09:32:03 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Glenn Morris Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Sep 09 11:31:57 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MlJWv-0005hC-BP for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 09 Sep 2009 11:31:57 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47608 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MlJWu-0005fO-JL for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 09 Sep 2009 05:31:56 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MlJWo-0005f3-L0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Sep 2009 05:31:50 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MlJWj-0005c8-AM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Sep 2009 05:31:50 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=48231 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MlJWj-0005c3-3R for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Sep 2009 05:31:45 -0400 Original-Received: from orlando.hostforweb.net ([216.246.45.90]:49832) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MlJWg-0000b6-Vt; Wed, 09 Sep 2009 05:31:43 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46419) by orlando.hostforweb.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MlJWb-0001Uh-LY; Wed, 09 Sep 2009 04:31:38 -0500 X-Hashcash: 1:20:090909:rgm@gnu.org::A6ZZ9sbz7plG//7X:0000000GX1 X-Hashcash: 1:20:090909:emacs-devel@gnu.org::A0afCbTFKGoDhL/+:0000000000000000000000000000000000000000002nMa X-Hashcash: 1:20:090909:ding@gnus.org::TbXKR6ODpAyZvYGj:00001eKX X-Face: #kKnN,xUnmKia.'[pp`; Omh}odZK)?7wQSl"4o04=EixTF+V[""w~iNbM9ZL+.b*_CxUmFk B#Fu[*?MZZH@IkN:!"\w%I_zt>[$nm7nQosZ<3eu; B:$Q_:p!',P.c0-_Cy[dz4oIpw0ESA^D*1Lw= L&i*6&( User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/23.1.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:5UmHrNd7KI/YhmO7Wtn5Gi/vPjU= X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - orlando.hostforweb.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - jpl.org X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:115164 gmane.emacs.gnus.general:68978 Archived-At: >>>>> Glenn Morris wrote: > Please install whatever version you prefer, regardless of warnings. > Personally, I would just expand the define-obsolete-function-alias > macro (for Emacs 21), and leave the featurep test, since: i) it's > totally correct today; ii) it seems unlikely XEmacs will ever add > float-time; iii) even if it does, it does zero harm if Gnus keeps > using time-to-seconds there; and iv) since Gnus will want to support > older versions of XEmacs, you wont be able to remove time-to-seconds > for many years anyway. I've made changes in the Emacs trunk, and also have synch'd the Emacs trunk and the Gnus trunk mutually. Maybe it didn't break the way you first brought about. Thanks.