From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/65145 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Katsumi Yamaoka Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: ding article on google groups but not gmane Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 12:18:32 +0900 Organization: Emacsen advocacy group Message-ID: References: <87fy1sjzko.fsf@jidanni.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1189048781 12687 80.91.229.12 (6 Sep 2007 03:19:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 03:19:41 +0000 (UTC) Cc: larsi+gmane@gnus.org To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M13658@lists.math.uh.edu Thu Sep 06 05:19:41 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IT7u3-0006rQ-Mc for ding-account@gmane.org; Thu, 06 Sep 2007 05:19:36 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IT7tp-0004sE-Ge; Wed, 05 Sep 2007 22:19:21 -0500 Original-Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IT7tn-0004rt-Lw for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Wed, 05 Sep 2007 22:19:19 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1IT7tk-00056W-25 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Wed, 05 Sep 2007 22:19:19 -0500 Original-Received: from orlando.hostforweb.net ([216.246.45.90]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1IT7ti-0005NO-00; Thu, 06 Sep 2007 05:19:14 +0200 Original-Received: from [66.225.201.151] (port=47395 helo=mail.jpl.org) by orlando.hostforweb.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.66) (envelope-from ) id 1IT7t7-0005QQ-Qu; Wed, 05 Sep 2007 22:18:38 -0500 X-Hashcash: 1:20:070906:ding@gnus.org::h9+y4Y0KwNcaZEwj:00001ret X-Hashcash: 1:20:070906:larsi@gnus.org::vmxSRdlB29dXTNgi:00001Pm X-Face: #kKnN,xUnmKia.'[pp`;Omh}odZK)?7wQSl"4o04=EixTF+V[""w~iNbM9ZL+.b*_CxUmFk B#Fu[*?MZZH@IkN:!"\w%I_zt>[$nm7nQosZ<3eu;B:$Q_:p!',P.c0-_Cy[dz4oIpw0ESA^D*1Lw= L&i*6&( User-Agent: Gnus/5.110007 (No Gnus v0.7) Emacs/23.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:tVhu1g0yVXTpeKTg6wf0ABZpHOg= X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - orlando.hostforweb.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - gnus.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - jpl.org X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:65145 Archived-At: >>>>> jidanni@jidanni.org wrote: > Gentlemen, why is an article in this group, > Message-ID: > References: <87bqcsog2m.fsf@jidanni.org> > visible on google groups, but not on gmane? Only the parent is visible > on gmane. > (http://news.gmane.org/group/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/last=/force_load=t) > Good thing I checked > http://groups.google.com/groups/search?q=\"don\'t+mark+as+read+automatically\"+gnus > Or else I wouldn't have ever seen his valuable reply. > The headers > http://groups.google.com/group/gnus.ding/msg/585acf697980782b?dmode=source > show that it went thru quimby.gnus.org. I guess the reason is that the article was first posted by the author to the gnus.ding newsgroup, and the Gmane server has not only the gmane.emacs.gnus.general group but also the gnus.ding group. So, the article reposted by the ding server to the gmane.emacs.gnus.general group was rejected because of the duplicated Message-ID (the article has already reached to the gnus.ding group in the Gmane server before being reposted to the gmane.emacs.gnus.general group). Similarly, it will probably happen also when posting articles to the gmane.emacs.gnus.general group, I guess.