* spam mails using image/gif in multipart/alternative
@ 2005-12-08 21:14 Reiner Steib
2005-12-08 22:39 ` Katsumi Yamaoka
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From: Reiner Steib @ 2005-12-08 21:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
Hi,
within the last days, I've seen several spam mails on Gmane with such
a MIME structure[1]:
<* mixed> Re: unaccommodating
<1.* alternative>
<1.1.* alternative>
<1.1.1 text>
<1.1.2 html>
<1.2 gif>
<2 text>
Gnus displays the image/gif part for me, probably also with the
default settings.
I've committed an addition to the doc string (feel free to improve).
Maybe we should even add "image/.*" in the default?
,----[ <f1> v mm-discouraged-alternatives RET ]
| mm-discouraged-alternatives is a variable defined in `mm-decode.el'.
| Its value is nil
|
| Documentation:
| List of MIME types that are discouraged when viewing multipart/alternative.
| Viewing agents are supposed to view the last possible part of a message,
| as that is supposed to be the richest. However, users may prefer other
| types instead, and this list says what types are most unwanted. If,
| for instance, text/html parts are very unwanted, and text/richtext are
| somewhat unwanted, then the value of this variable should be set
| to:
|
| ("text/html" "text/richtext")
|
| Adding "image/.*" might also be useful. Spammers use it as the
| prefered part of multipart/alternative messages.
|
| You can customize this variable.
|
| [back]
`----
I also fixed the custom type: Matching is done with `string-match' in
`mm-preferred-alternative-precedence' so it should be regexp instead
of string.
Bye, Reiner.
[1] <000001c5fc32$17c2e4a0$486ea8c0__328.46739418364$1134072149$gmane$org@corridor>
<000001c5f776$d20769f0$d424a8c0@surprising>)
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* Re: spam mails using image/gif in multipart/alternative
2005-12-08 21:14 spam mails using image/gif in multipart/alternative Reiner Steib
@ 2005-12-08 22:39 ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2005-12-09 8:57 ` Reiner Steib
2005-12-15 15:25 ` multipart/alternative in gnus-buttonized-mime-types (was: spam mails using image/gif in multipart/alternative) Reiner Steib
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From: Katsumi Yamaoka @ 2005-12-08 22:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
>>>>> In <v94q5j5m1q.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> Reiner Steib wrote:
> Maybe we should even add "image/.*" in the default?
It would be nice. Actually, I've been doing so all the time and
recommended it to folks several times.
> ,----[ <f1> v mm-discouraged-alternatives RET ]
>| mm-discouraged-alternatives is a variable defined in `mm-decode.el'.
>| Its value is nil
[...]
>| Adding "image/.*" might also be useful. Spammers use it as the
>| prefered part of multipart/alternative messages.
My setting is:
(setq gnus-buttonized-mime-types
'("multipart/alternative" "multipart/signed")
mm-discouraged-alternatives
'("image/.+"))
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* Re: spam mails using image/gif in multipart/alternative
2005-12-08 22:39 ` Katsumi Yamaoka
@ 2005-12-09 8:57 ` Reiner Steib
2005-12-09 12:29 ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2005-12-15 15:25 ` multipart/alternative in gnus-buttonized-mime-types (was: spam mails using image/gif in multipart/alternative) Reiner Steib
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From: Reiner Steib @ 2005-12-09 8:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
On Thu, Dec 08 2005, Katsumi Yamaoka wrote:
>>>>>> In <v94q5j5m1q.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> Reiner Steib wrote:
>
>> Maybe we should even add "image/.*" in the default?
>
> It would be nice. Actually, I've been doing so all the time and
> recommended it to folks several times.
I've used the following up to now:
(setq
mm-discouraged-alternatives
'("text/html" "text/richtext" "text/enriched" "multipart/related")
mm-automatic-display (remove "text/html" mm-automatic-display)
gnus-buttonized-mime-types '(".*/signed"))
I newer saw legitimate preferred image/.* parts in
multipart/alternative, but I hesitate to make such change based on my
usage only. If everyone agrees with this, we could change the
default. (Only in the trunk or in v5-10 too? Is it a bug that Gnus
displays image/* spam?) Opinions?
> My setting is:
>
> (setq gnus-buttonized-mime-types
> '("multipart/alternative" "multipart/signed")
> mm-discouraged-alternatives
> '("image/.+"))
Interesting idea! It allows to pick the alternative (text, html, gif)
an displays the plain/text at first:
,----
| 1. (*) multipart/alternative ( ) image/gif
|
| 2. (*) text/plain ( ) text/html
`----
Could you please add this suggestion as an example to the manual?
(Maybe we write "/.*" instead of "/.+" as in other places; the
difference might confuse newbies. Or we could change everything to
"/.+" which is slightly more exact.)
Bye, Reiner.
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* Re: spam mails using image/gif in multipart/alternative
2005-12-09 8:57 ` Reiner Steib
@ 2005-12-09 12:29 ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2005-12-16 12:24 ` Katsumi Yamaoka
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From: Katsumi Yamaoka @ 2005-12-09 12:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
>>>>> In <v9zmnave9s.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> Reiner Steib wrote:
> I've used the following up to now:
> (setq
> mm-discouraged-alternatives
> '("text/html" "text/richtext" "text/enriched" "multipart/related")
> mm-automatic-display (remove "text/html" mm-automatic-display)
> gnus-buttonized-mime-types '(".*/signed"))
> I newer saw legitimate preferred image/.* parts in
> multipart/alternative, but I hesitate to make such change based on my
> usage only. If everyone agrees with this, we could change the
> default. (Only in the trunk or in v5-10 too? Is it a bug that Gnus
> displays image/* spam?) Opinions?
I don't know how a multipart/alternative mail of which the second
part is an image is useful (they are often pictures of pills ;-).
There might be mailers which display both of two parts. (Gnus
may have to do so if content types of two parts are different,
e.g., one is text/*, the other is image/*.)
At any rate, I think making it default to (image/.*) is commonly
useful because most of such mails are spam and it is not worth
seeing such images.
>> My setting is:
>>
>> (setq gnus-buttonized-mime-types
>> '("multipart/alternative" "multipart/signed")
>> mm-discouraged-alternatives
>> '("image/.+"))
> Interesting idea! It allows to pick the alternative (text, html, gif)
> an displays the plain/text at first:
> ,----
>| 1. (*) multipart/alternative ( ) image/gif
>|
>| 2. (*) text/plain ( ) text/html
> `----
> Could you please add this suggestion as an example to the manual?
I'll do it next week.
> (Maybe we write "/.*" instead of "/.+" as in other places; the
> difference might confuse newbies. Or we could change everything to
> "/.+" which is slightly more exact.)
I'll also use `.*' since the differences aren't significant.
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* multipart/alternative in gnus-buttonized-mime-types (was: spam mails using image/gif in multipart/alternative)
2005-12-08 22:39 ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2005-12-09 8:57 ` Reiner Steib
@ 2005-12-15 15:25 ` Reiner Steib
2005-12-15 23:12 ` multipart/alternative in gnus-buttonized-mime-types Katsumi Yamaoka
1 sibling, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Reiner Steib @ 2005-12-15 15:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
On Thu, Dec 08 2005, Katsumi Yamaoka wrote:
> My setting is:
>
> (setq gnus-buttonized-mime-types
> '("multipart/alternative" "multipart/signed")
> mm-discouraged-alternatives
> '("image/.+"))
An inconvenience with this is that...
| 1. (*) text/plain ( ) text/html
... also appears in the cited text when using `F' or `R'.
Bye, Reiner.
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* Re: multipart/alternative in gnus-buttonized-mime-types
2005-12-15 15:25 ` multipart/alternative in gnus-buttonized-mime-types (was: spam mails using image/gif in multipart/alternative) Reiner Steib
@ 2005-12-15 23:12 ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2005-12-16 11:58 ` Katsumi Yamaoka
0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Katsumi Yamaoka @ 2005-12-15 23:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
>>>>> In <v9fyouz8jl.fsf_-_@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> Reiner Steib wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 08 2005, Katsumi Yamaoka wrote:
>> My setting is:
>>
>> (setq gnus-buttonized-mime-types
>> '("multipart/alternative" "multipart/signed")
>> mm-discouraged-alternatives
>> '("image/.+"))
> An inconvenience with this is that...
>| 1. (*) text/plain ( ) text/html
> ... also appears in the cited text when using `F' or `R'.
Yes, it's a trouble also for me. Though it's easy to delete
them manually, it is likely to forget to do so. I'll try to
delete them in the gnus-article-copy buffer, but buttons except
for automatically inlined parts might not have to be deleted.
In addition to this, I want to reply to the text/plain parts
even though I prefer to display the text/html parts. It might
be hard to realize it, though.
P.S.
Mails sent to @jpl.org tends to stagnate now, but I can read all
the mailing lists gatewayed to Gmane.
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* Re: multipart/alternative in gnus-buttonized-mime-types
2005-12-15 23:12 ` multipart/alternative in gnus-buttonized-mime-types Katsumi Yamaoka
@ 2005-12-16 11:58 ` Katsumi Yamaoka
0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Katsumi Yamaoka @ 2005-12-16 11:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
>>>>> In <b4mek4erm42.fsf@jpl.org> Katsumi Yamaoka wrote:
>>>>>> In <v9fyouz8jl.fsf_-_@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> Reiner Steib wrote:
>>| 1. (*) text/plain ( ) text/html
>> ... also appears in the cited text when using `F' or `R'.
> Yes, it's a trouble also for me. Though it's easy to delete
> them manually, it is likely to forget to do so. I'll try to
> delete them in the gnus-article-copy buffer,
Installed in the trunk.
> but buttons except for automatically inlined parts might not
> have to be deleted.
It was needless anxiety. Gnus had already tagged buttons which
are assumed to be useless as `annotation's, and removed.
> In addition to this, I want to reply to the text/plain parts
> even though I prefer to display the text/html parts. It might
> be hard to realize it, though.
I might do that when I have time to spare.
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* Re: spam mails using image/gif in multipart/alternative
2005-12-09 12:29 ` Katsumi Yamaoka
@ 2005-12-16 12:24 ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2005-12-19 7:42 ` Katsumi Yamaoka
0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Katsumi Yamaoka @ 2005-12-16 12:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
>>>>> In <b4mhd9io3mh.fsf@jpl.org> Katsumi Yamaoka wrote:
>>> My setting is:
>>>
>>> (setq gnus-buttonized-mime-types
>>> '("multipart/alternative" "multipart/signed")
>>> mm-discouraged-alternatives
>>> '("image/.+"))
>> Interesting idea! It allows to pick the alternative (text, html, gif)
>> an displays the plain/text at first:
>> ,----
>>| 1. (*) multipart/alternative ( ) image/gif
>>|
>>| 2. (*) text/plain ( ) text/html
>> `----
>> Could you please add this suggestion as an example to the manual?
> I'll do it next week.
I'd already done. However, I probably have misunderstood it.
`gnus-buttonized-mime-types'
[...]
You could also add `"multipart/alternative"' to this list to
display radio buttons that allow you to choose one of two media
types those mails include. See also `mm-discouraged-alternatives'
(*note Display Customization: (emacs-mime)Display Customization.).
Even if "multipart/alternative" is not added to this variable,
radio buttons are displayed by default. I'll fix those
descriptions next week. Sorry.
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* Re: spam mails using image/gif in multipart/alternative
2005-12-16 12:24 ` Katsumi Yamaoka
@ 2005-12-19 7:42 ` Katsumi Yamaoka
0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Katsumi Yamaoka @ 2005-12-19 7:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
>>>>> In <b4mwti5dybz.fsf@jpl.org> Katsumi Yamaoka wrote:
> However, I probably have misunderstood it.
> `gnus-buttonized-mime-types'
> [...]
> You could also add `"multipart/alternative"' to this list to
> display radio buttons that allow you to choose one of two media
> types those mails include. See also `mm-discouraged-alternatives'
> (*note Display Customization: (emacs-mime)Display Customization.).
> Even if "multipart/alternative" is not added to this variable,
> radio buttons are displayed by default.
I was completely confused, but those descriptions are correct. ;-p
I've added the example of a setting for gnus-buttonized-mime-types
and mm-discouraged-alternatives in emacs-mime.texi.
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