Re: nntps and posting.

[Katsumi Yamaoka <yamaoka@jpl.org>]

>>>>> In <b4mfy99beux.fsf@jpl.org> Katsumi Yamaoka wrote:

>>>>>> --- nntp.el	05 Feb 2006 14:56:44 +0100	1.31
>>>>>> +++ nntp.el	25 Dec 2006 13:48:53 +0100

[...]

>  	  (unless (or wait-for
> -		      (equal nntp-open-connection-function
> -			     'nntp-open-network-stream))
> +		      (memq nntp-open-connection-function
> +			    '(nntp-open-network-stream nntp-open-ssl-stream)))

> Let us do it and wait for the response.  I've installed the
> patch in the trunk.  What I can do when someone complains is
> only to remove it, though.

I got a response from a person who uses `nntp-open-ssl-stream'
(I Bcc this message to the person).  He wrote that the recent
change stops Gnus from connecting to the nntps server while
Michaël requires it.  It is obvious that some nntps servers
don't echo commands but others do.  So, we have to make it
change the behavior according to the version of the nntps server
automatically or make it customizable by a user.  Since there
seems to be no person to work with nntps servers for the moment,
I've added the following two server variables to the trunk and
the v5-10 branch.

`nntp-never-echoes-commands'
     Non-`nil' means the nntp server never echoes commands.  It is
     reported that some nntps server doesn't echo commands.  So, you
     may want to set this to non-`nil' in the method for such a server
     setting `nntp-open-connection-function' to `nntp-open-ssl-stream'
     for example.  The default value is `nil'.  Note that the
     `nntp-open-connection-functions-never-echo-commands' variable
     overrides the `nil' value of this variable.

`nntp-open-connection-functions-never-echo-commands'
     List of functions that never echo commands.  Add or set a function
     which you set to `nntp-open-connection-function' to this list if
     it does not echo commands.  Note that a non-`nil' value of the
     `nntp-never-echoes-commands' variable overrides this variable.  The
     default value is `(nntp-open-network-stream)'.

It might not have been necessary to have made the later a server
variable but you can use it to have the default value.  For
instance, if all the nntps servers that Michaël connects to don't
echo commands, you can simply set it as follows:

(setq nntp-open-connection-functions-never-echo-commands
      '(nntp-open-network-stream nntp-open-ssl-stream))

Otherwise, you can use `nntp-never-echoes-commands' per server
like the following:

(setq gnus-select-method
      '(nntp "server"
	     (nntp-address "server.example.com")
	     (nntp-open-connection-function nntp-open-ssl-stream)
	     (nntp-never-echoes-commands t)
	     ...
	     ...))

The person who sent a mail to me has nothing to do of course.

Regards,