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From: Katsumi Yamaoka <yamaoka@jpl.org>
To: ding@gnus.org
Subject: Re: message-header-xheader unused, maybe
Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 18:31:31 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b4mmyztz1u4.fsf@jpl.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <smud50t586a.fsf@linuxpal.mit.edu>

>>>>> In <smud50t586a.fsf@linuxpal.mit.edu> Greg Troxel wrote:

>   I use light.  But I tried the white-on-black Emacs today and
>   realized I can do nothing in the message header unless I turn
>   the brightness of the display up to practically the maximum.

[...]

> I have long used white text on black background, and used to use green
> text on black background to avoid fuzz from convergence issues.

[...]

> In a X11 emacs, the colors have not been too annoying, but they are
> still darker than I would like.  With emacs running in an xterm, I find
> the colors, particularly for quoted text in article display, to be very
> dark, to the point where I turn off font-lock-mode to be able to read.

I've lightened the default dark colors of some faces, in the Gnus
CVS trunk.  Here's a comparison of old ones and new ones:

http://www.jpl.org/gnus-dark-old-new-colors.png

They look nice at least to my brown eyes.  However, I have neither
a convergence problem (because of LCD ;-) nor an 8 colors xterm.
If you think some colors should be changed, don't hesitate to say.
(Please write the color names or the values of the rgb components
exactly.)

> Part of the issue may be the values reported by tty-color-alist in
> xterm (NetBSD, XFree86).

> (("black" 0 0 0 0)
>  ("red" 1 65535 0 0)
>  ("green" 2 0 65535 0)
>  ("yellow" 3 65535 65535 0)
>  ("blue" 4 0 0 65535)
>  ("magenta" 5 65535 0 65535)
>  ("cyan" 6 0 65535 65535)
>  ("white" 7 65535 65535 65535))

> In my view the right colors would have high luminances and therefore not
> be that saturated.  I mean a light blue like c0c0ff rather than 0000ff.

> I don't know that the right fix is.  Perhaps not using color should be
> chosen if the palette is inadequate.  Perhaps I should get a spiffier
> xterm.



  reply	other threads:[~2007-05-25  9:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-05-18  1:25 Kevin Ryde
2007-05-22 10:56 ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2007-05-22 12:55   ` Greg Troxel
2007-05-25  9:31     ` Katsumi Yamaoka [this message]
2007-05-26  1:37     ` Kevin Ryde

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