From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/62722 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: PATCH: Make nnrss include RSS dc:subject Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 17:59:40 +0900 Organization: Emacsen advocacy group Message-ID: References: <87psnw9xf4.fsf@stone.tss.usg.edu> <87y82fkbzq.fsf@stone.tss.usg.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1144918928 20180 80.91.229.2 (13 Apr 2006 09:02:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 09:02:08 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ding-owner+m11249@lists.math.uh.edu Thu Apr 13 11:02:07 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FTxi7-00057e-JU for ding-account@gmane.org; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 11:01:55 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1FTxi2-0007HF-00; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 04:01:51 -0500 Original-Received: from nas02.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.40]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1FTxg3-0007HA-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 03:59:47 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by nas02.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FTxg2-0000Mu-R5 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 03:59:47 -0500 Original-Received: from washington.hostforweb.net ([66.225.201.13]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1FTxg1-0006xo-00 for ; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 10:59:45 +0200 Original-Received: from [205.234.185.198] (port=60032 helo=mail.jpl.org) by washington.hostforweb.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.52) id 1FTxiN-00048L-8W for ding@gnus.org; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 04:02:11 -0500 Original-To: ding@gnus.org X-Face: #kKnN,xUnmKia.'[pp`;Omh}odZK)?7wQSl"4o04=EixTF+V[""w~iNbM9ZL+.b*_CxUmFk B#Fu[*?MZZH@IkN:!"\w%I_zt>[$nm7nQosZ<3eu;B:$Q_:p!',P.c0-_Cy[dz4oIpw0ESA^D*1Lw= L&i*6&( User-Agent: Gnus/5.110005 (No Gnus v0.5) Emacs/23.0.0 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:ph5Z37wn9HIzb4ZicFVPAITaTVc= X-Hashcash: 1:20:060413:ding@gnus.org::TiDxY9K0uHKW3p2N:000031PK X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - washington.hostforweb.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - gnus.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - jpl.org X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) Precedence: bulk Original-Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:62722 Archived-At: >>>>> In >>>>> Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen wrote: > Katsumi Yamaoka writes: >> The advantage of nnshimbun is to remove advertisement. However, the >> module to deal with it with each news site is needed (e.g., >> sb-bbc.el for BBC), and we need to make major changes in those >> modules periodically. > Would it be possible to separate out this into something declarative > that could be downloaded at will? This is exactly what the emacs-w3m people were considering. It has not been achieved yet, though. In fact, the number of modules is too large for a few developers to maintain nowadays. > The main problem with all these web-centred things is the need to > update the source code whenever the HTML changes, and I don't see any > general way to fix that. To parse Slashdot, for instance, you > probably have to do that programmatically. Yes, we will not be able to deal with everything using only regexps. > But for stuff like ad removal, couldn't a language be defined for > that? For instance a set of regexps (or something) that could be > applied to the article bodies before displaying (on a per-source > basis). The user could update these rules with, say, > `M-x gnus-update-washing-rules' that would download the rules from > some central repository. > The important thing being, of course, that there would be no actual > code being downloaded, because that would be a security problem. Or there might be a bug causing a serious accident even if it was made with no malice. > Heh. Imagine rules that would remove Yahoo ads from Yahoogroups > mailing lists, and Sourceforge ads from those lists, and... > Gnus ad blocker. :-) Perhaps we had better concentrate instead on `Gnus spam blocker'. :-)