* nnmaildir question
@ 2005-10-06 6:39 Katsumi Yamaoka
2005-10-06 8:45 ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2005-10-06 16:34 ` Paul Jarc
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From: Katsumi Yamaoka @ 2005-10-06 6:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
Hi,
I have a doubt whether nnmaildir actually supports the expiry-wait
group parameter and also the expiry-wait-function group parameter.
Info says in the Maildir section as follows:
`expire-age'
An integer specifying the minimum age, in seconds, of an article
before it will be expired, or the symbol `never' to specify that
articles should never be expired. If this parameter is not set,
`nnmaildir' falls back to the usual
`nnmail-expiry-wait'(`-function') variables (overrideable by the
`expiry-wait'(`-function') group parameters.
However, the nnmaildir.el code doesn't seem to me to support
those group parameters. Furthermore, Gnus doesn't support the
expiry-wait-function group parameter, AFAIK. Did I misread?
(Although I've never used nnmaildir, I noticed it when
translating that Info section into Japanese.)
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* Re: nnmaildir question
2005-10-06 6:39 nnmaildir question Katsumi Yamaoka
@ 2005-10-06 8:45 ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2005-10-06 16:38 ` Paul Jarc
2005-10-06 16:34 ` Paul Jarc
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From: Katsumi Yamaoka @ 2005-10-06 8:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
>>>>> In <b4m7jcrxi7v.fsf@jpl.org> Katsumi Yamaoka wrote:
> I have a doubt whether nnmaildir actually supports the expiry-wait
> group parameter and also the expiry-wait-function group parameter.
In addition, the other item in the Maildir Info section:
`expire-group'
[...]
to put the article. _If this parameter is not set, `nnmaildir'
does not fall back to the `expiry-target' group parameter or the
`nnmail-expiry-target' variable._
The last sentence seems to have to be corrected into:
_If this parameter is set, ...
However, nnmaildir seems to use neither the expiry-target group
parameter nor the nnmail-expiry-target variable too. Hmm...
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* Re: nnmaildir question
2005-10-06 6:39 nnmaildir question Katsumi Yamaoka
2005-10-06 8:45 ` Katsumi Yamaoka
@ 2005-10-06 16:34 ` Paul Jarc
2005-10-07 0:49 ` Katsumi Yamaoka
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From: Paul Jarc @ 2005-10-06 16:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: ding
Katsumi Yamaoka <yamaoka@jpl.org> wrote:
> I have a doubt whether nnmaildir actually supports the expiry-wait
> group parameter and also the expiry-wait-function group parameter.
It uses the nnmail-expiry-wait(-function) variables. I believe Gnus
sets those variables according to the group parameters (at least, that
was my understandign when I wrote that part of the manual), but I
could be wrong.
paul
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* Re: nnmaildir question
2005-10-06 8:45 ` Katsumi Yamaoka
@ 2005-10-06 16:38 ` Paul Jarc
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From: Paul Jarc @ 2005-10-06 16:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: ding
Katsumi Yamaoka <yamaoka@jpl.org> wrote:
> In addition, the other item in the Maildir Info section:
>
> `expire-group'
> [...]
> to put the article. _If this parameter is not set, `nnmaildir'
> does not fall back to the `expiry-target' group parameter or the
> `nnmail-expiry-target' variable._
>
> The last sentence seems to have to be corrected into:
>
> _If this parameter is set, ...
No, it's correct as-is, but maybe it could be clearer. The user might
expect nnmaildir to fall back to expiry-target when expire-group is
not set, and this is meant to warn them that this will not happen.
paul
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* Re: nnmaildir question
2005-10-06 16:34 ` Paul Jarc
@ 2005-10-07 0:49 ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2005-10-07 3:34 ` Paul Jarc
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From: Katsumi Yamaoka @ 2005-10-07 0:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
> Katsumi Yamaoka <yamaoka@jpl.org> wrote:
>> I have a doubt whether nnmaildir actually supports the expiry-wait
>> group parameter and also the expiry-wait-function group parameter.
>>>>> In <m3d5mi38pw.fsf@multivac.cwru.edu> Paul Jarc wrote:
> It uses the nnmail-expiry-wait(-function) variables. I believe Gnus
> sets those variables according to the group parameters (at least, that
> was my understandign when I wrote that part of the manual), but I
> could be wrong.
I see. Thanks. I found gnus-group-expire-articles-1 binds
nnmail-expiry-wait to the expiry-wait group parameter. However,
Gnus doesn't seem to support the group parameter called
`expiry-wait-function' (yet). gnus-group-expire-articles-1
simply binds nnmail-expiry-wait-function to nil when expiry-wait
is specified. (I don't feel such one is very useful, though.)
> Katsumi Yamaoka <yamaoka@jpl.org> wrote:
>> In addition, the other item in the Maildir Info section:
>>
>> `expire-group'
>> [...]
>> to put the article. _If this parameter is not set, `nnmaildir'
>> does not fall back to the `expiry-target' group parameter or the
>> `nnmail-expiry-target' variable._
>>
>> The last sentence seems to have to be corrected into:
>>
>> _If this parameter is set, ...
>>>>> In <m37jcq38jj.fsf@multivac.cwru.edu> Paul Jarc wrote:
> No, it's correct as-is, but maybe it could be clearer. The user might
> expect nnmaildir to fall back to expiry-target when expire-group is
> not set, and this is meant to warn them that this will not happen.
I see. So, could it be `_Even if this parameter is not set, ...'?
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* Re: nnmaildir question
2005-10-07 0:49 ` Katsumi Yamaoka
@ 2005-10-07 3:34 ` Paul Jarc
2005-10-07 4:55 ` Katsumi Yamaoka
0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Paul Jarc @ 2005-10-07 3:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: ding
Katsumi Yamaoka <yamaoka@jpl.org> wrote:
> I see. So, could it be `_Even if this parameter is not set, ...'?
Yes, that would probably be clearer.
paul
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* Re: nnmaildir question
2005-10-07 3:34 ` Paul Jarc
@ 2005-10-07 4:55 ` Katsumi Yamaoka
0 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Katsumi Yamaoka @ 2005-10-07 4:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
> Katsumi Yamaoka <yamaoka@jpl.org> wrote:
>> I see. So, could it be `_Even if this parameter is not set, ...'?
>>>>> In <m3vf0a0zkv.fsf@multivac.cwru.edu> Paul Jarc wrote:
> Yes, that would probably be clearer.
Thanks. I did so in the trunk and the v5-10 branch. I also
clarified how the expiry-wait group parameter would influence.
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