From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/83168 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Katsumi Yamaoka Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: several issues with non ascii characters in group names Date: Fri, 17 May 2013 19:56:57 +0900 Organization: Emacsen advocacy group Message-ID: References: <87r4h63eyh.fsf@micropit.couberia.selfip.net> <87obcayt92.fsf@micropit.couberia.selfip.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1368788356 27416 80.91.229.3 (17 May 2013 10:59:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 17 May 2013 10:59:16 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M31434@lists.math.uh.edu Fri May 17 12:59:15 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UdINW-0003Gw-Mh for ding-account@gmane.org; Fri, 17 May 2013 12:59:15 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1UdILk-0004o8-F5; Fri, 17 May 2013 05:57:24 -0500 Original-Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1UdILh-0004nt-H3 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Fri, 17 May 2013 05:57:21 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1UdILX-0001oX-1Y for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Fri, 17 May 2013 05:57:21 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-hampton.hostforweb.net ([216.246.13.138] helo=hampton.hostforweb.net) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UdILV-0007ST-B9 for ding@gnus.org; Fri, 17 May 2013 12:57:09 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1]:59058 helo=localhost) by hampton.hostforweb.net with smtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UdILN-000dE2-7k for ding@gnus.org; Fri, 17 May 2013 05:57:01 -0500 X-Face: #kKnN,xUnmKia.'[pp`;Omh}odZK)?7wQSl"4o04=EixTF+V[""w~iNbM9ZL+.b*_CxUmFk B#Fu[*?MZZH@IkN:!"\w%I_zt>[$nm7nQosZ<3eu;B:$Q_:p!',P.c0-_Cy[dz4oIpw0ESA^D*1Lw= L&i*6&( User-Agent: Gnus/5.130008 (=?iso-2022-jp?B?GyRCPz8bKEI=?= Gnus v0.8) Emacs/24.3.50 (i686-pc-cygwin) Cancel-Lock: sha1:AFZG72tuYUDPnu/zvgUFR2a2ixc= X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - hampton.hostforweb.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - gnus.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - jpl.org X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: hampton.hostforweb.net: acl_c_authenticated_local_user: root X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:83168 Archived-At: Peter M=FCnster wrote: >>> 2.) Several entries in server buffer for the same group >> >>> For the group "st=E9phane" for example, I have these lines in the server >>> buffer: >> >> *Group* buffer? > No. The *Gnus Browse Server* {nnml:Email} buffer. This never happens in > the group buffer. Ah, I see (I rarely see nnml's server, so I didn't think of it). >>> U 8: st=E9phane >>> U 1: st=E9phane >>> U 1: st=E9phane >>> U 10: st=E9phane >> >>> Not a big problem, just strange. >> >> I guess you have those four groups; in `active', the human-readable >> names are the same but encodings differ. > Yes. I have these lines in the active file: > st=E9phane 10 1 y > st=E9phane 1 1 y > st=E9phane 1 1 y > st=E9phane 8 1 y > But encodings don't differ: everything is utf-8. Hmm. I've ever faced it in the past, though I don't recall how they were made. But this should be why the server buffer list those four. >> A possible solution would be to copy all the existing articles to a >> temporary group, delete those non-ASCII groups, create the non-ASCII >> group again, and move the saved articles there. > How? Just "cp st=E9phane/* tmp" ? It will do, but you'll need to run `M-x nnml-generate-nov-databases-directory RET DIR_NAME RET' after restoring the articles in the *new* st=E9phane group. Instead, doing `B c' or `B m' in the summary buffer seems better. As for deleting those duplicate groups, I'm not sure `G DEL' does work as expected, though (you might have to edit manually active, and .newsrc.eld :<). > Some further information: > - After restarting Gnus, I've seen all 10 messages in the summary > buffer. But later, when creating the summary buffer once again, there > were only 8 messages > - It happens *always* with every group that has accented characters. > Other examples from the *Gnus Browse Server* buffer: > U 7: j=E9r=F4me > U 3: j=E9r=F4me > U 2: j=E9r=F4me > U 4: j=E9r=F4me > U 4: j=E9r=F4me > U 5: j=E9r=F4me > U 3: j=FCrgen > U 3: j=FCrgen > U 3: j=FCrgen > U 3: j=FCrgen > U 3: j=FCrgen > U 3: j=FCrgen > U 19: val=E9rie > U 12: val=E9rie > U 7: val=E9rie > U 13: val=E9rie > U 13: val=E9rie > U 18: val=E9rie Oh, that's too bad. >>> 3.) Some messages are not displayed in summary buffer >> >>> For example in my group "st=E9phane" there are 10 messages. There are a= lso >>> 10 lines in the Mail/st=E9phane/.overview file, but only 8 are displayed >>> in the summary buffer. How can I see the other 2 messages in Gnus? >> >> Does typing `10000 RET' on that group help? > No... :( Anyway I'd like to know what happens after re-creating those groups. Good luck.