From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/81792 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Katsumi Yamaoka Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: No way to make a given single article un-unseen ! Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2012 18:03:42 +0900 Organization: Emacsen advocacy group Message-ID: References: <877gx595cn.fsf@jidanni.org> <87fwbtlnax.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1335258260 21947 80.91.229.3 (24 Apr 2012 09:04:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2012 09:04:20 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M30064@lists.math.uh.edu Tue Apr 24 11:04:20 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SMbfX-0003Gp-9y for ding-account@gmane.org; Tue, 24 Apr 2012 11:04:19 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1SMbfO-0005L9-1R; Tue, 24 Apr 2012 04:04:10 -0500 Original-Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1SMbfL-0005Kk-Rk for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 24 Apr 2012 04:04:07 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SMbfI-0001ZN-K1 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 24 Apr 2012 04:04:07 -0500 Original-Received: from orlando.hostforweb.net ([216.246.45.90]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SMbfG-0005Zd-QZ for ding@gnus.org; Tue, 24 Apr 2012 11:04:02 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39147) by orlando.hostforweb.net with smtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SMbf7-00064T-Lv for ding@gnus.org; Tue, 24 Apr 2012 04:03:53 -0500 X-Face: #kKnN,xUnmKia.'[pp`;Omh}odZK)?7wQSl"4o04=EixTF+V[""w~iNbM9ZL+.b*_CxUmFk B#Fu[*?MZZH@IkN:!"\w%I_zt>[$nm7nQosZ<3eu;B:$Q_:p!',P.c0-_Cy[dz4oIpw0ESA^D*1Lw= L&i*6&( User-Agent: Gnus/5.130004 (=?iso-2022-jp?B?GyRCPz8bKEI=?= Gnus v0.4) Emacs/24.1.50 (i686-pc-cygwin) Cancel-Lock: sha1:xq3V1S0yIbOJipKgkUHmfCBLBlg= X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - orlando.hostforweb.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - gnus.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - jpl.org X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:81792 Archived-At: Adam Sj=F8gren wrote: > On Tue, 24 Apr 2012 13:19:46 +0900, Katsumi wrote: >> I vaguely think it would be convenient to make the unseen marks remain >> unless those bodies have been read, though. > Wouldn't that make "seen" (~"has it ever been shown in a summary") equal > to "read" (~"has the article been displayed")? Though I don't know what one who introduced `seen' and `unseen' intended, I think there are two kinds of unread articles. One is read only at a glance but marked as unread to read throughly in the future, and the other has never been read at all. The former is a business mail that is troublesome to read but should never ignore, for example. To mark it as ticked differs; that is used for the future reference. So, I wish there were two kinds of unread marks, and guessed `seen' and `unseen' may possibly be able to be the very things.