From: Katsumi Yamaoka <yamaoka@jpl.org>
To: Kenichi Handa <handa@ni.aist.go.jp>
Cc: ding@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [Unicode-2] `read' always returns multibyte symbol
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 08:31:49 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <b4my7czxeze.fsf@jpl.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1IsfuF-0004nF-9Q@etlken.m17n.org>
>>>>> Kenichi Handa <handa@ni.aist.go.jp> wrote:
> In article <b4moddv20sy.fsf@jpl.org>,
> Katsumi Yamaoka <yamaoka@jpl.org> writes:
>> What I observed was different.
> That is exactly what string-as-multibyte does. \206\343 and
> \202\271 are valid multibyte forms in the current Emacs,
> thus are treated as multibyte characters.
I understood why such readable characters appeared abruptly.
[...]
> Please try this:
> (string-make-unibyte
> (string-as-multibyte "\343\203\206\343\202\271\343\203\210"))
> You'll get the above result, ... yes, very weird.
Oh, it made me surprised a bit. But I often view such a scene
while playing with unibyte and multibyte things, and it always
confuses me.
> On the other hand,
> (string-as-unibyte
> (string-as-multibyte "\343\203\206\343\202\271\343\203\210"))
> => "\343\203\206\343\202\271\343\203\210"
>>> I long ago proposed a facility that turns on the
>>> multibyteness of a buffer while converting 8-bit bytes to
>>> multibyte characters as what string-to-multibyte does, but
>>> not accepted.
>> But the modern Emacsen does do so, doesn't it?
> No.
Oops. I misunderstood that the reason why Emacs 22 and 23 don't
break 8-bit data while they are being fed into a multibyte buffer
from a network process of which the process coding system is
binary. So, maybe the best ways for the present are still to
use a unibyte buffer for unibyte data and to use a multibyte
buffer for multibyte data. And use a string, not a buffer, to
encode and decode data if the multibyteness of data will change,
like:
(insert (prog1
(decode-coding-string (buffer-string) 'coding)
(erase-buffer)
(set-buffer-multibyte t)))
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-11-15 23:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-11-13 9:41 Katsumi Yamaoka
2007-11-13 12:55 ` Kenichi Handa
2007-11-13 15:10 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-11-14 4:53 ` Kenichi Handa
2007-11-14 3:56 ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2007-11-14 11:39 ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2007-11-14 14:52 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-11-14 23:52 ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2007-11-15 1:15 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-11-15 3:01 ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2007-11-15 3:39 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-11-15 10:20 ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2007-11-15 11:08 ` Kenichi Handa
2007-11-15 11:41 ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2007-11-15 14:41 ` Kenichi Handa
2007-11-15 23:31 ` Katsumi Yamaoka [this message]
2007-11-16 0:51 ` Kenichi Handa
2007-11-16 1:24 ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2007-11-16 2:51 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-11-15 15:22 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-11-16 0:29 ` Kenichi Handa
2007-11-16 10:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-11-13 15:07 ` Stefan Monnier
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