Re: Using CL in Gnus

[Katsumi Yamaoka <yamaoka@jpl.org>]

>>>>> In <v9y8u3cqiq.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de>
>>>>>	Reiner Steib <4.uce.03.r.s@nurfuerspam.de> wrote:

> IMHO, the point isn't how many users are affected by loading cl, but
> that all GNU Emacs packages (thus Gnus) should not load it at run time
> at all:

That's quite right.  However, Gnus 5.11 to be shipped is for
Emacs 21.4, not for Emacs 20.  And the latest compiled Gnus
doesn't require cl in Emacs 21 as far as I know.

> OTOH, Gnus 5.10.x (labeled Gnus 5.11) will be included in Emacs 21.y
> where the relevant functions for `spam-stat.el' (gethash
> hash-table-count make-hash-table mapc puthash) are built-in functions
> already.  So I'm not sure how relevant it is to avoid mapc and friends
> in Gnus 5.10.

Well, is it impossible that Gnus 5.11 will not support Emacs 20
as Emacs 19 was once forsaken by the September doctrine?  It is
a block to program freely, isn't it?  Although dgnushack.el
probably will not be contained in Emacs 21.4, there are odd
items and old fashioned codes for Emacs 20 here there and
elsewhere (which also means that it may be hard to remove
them).
-- 
Katsumi Yamaoka <yamaoka@jpl.org>