From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/58973 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Katsumi Yamaoka Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Changes committed gnus/contrib (ChangeLog compface.el) Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 16:21:51 +0900 Organization: Emacsen advocacy group Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <87pt38um9p.fsf@orebokech.com> <873c03e2vs.fsf@orebokech.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1098688985 19495 80.91.229.6 (25 Oct 2004 07:23:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 07:23:05 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ding-owner+M7515@lists.math.uh.edu Mon Oct 25 09:22:48 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13] ident=mail) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CLzBo-0004kh-00 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 09:22:48 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1CLzB9-00047I-00; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 02:22:07 -0500 Original-Received: from util2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.23]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1CLzB1-00047C-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 02:21:59 -0500 Original-Received: from justine.libertine.org ([66.139.78.221] ident=postfix) by util2.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1CLzAz-0007Zh-Jn for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 02:21:57 -0500 Original-Received: from washington.hostforweb.net (washington.hostforweb.net [69.61.11.2]) by justine.libertine.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 242493A0061 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 02:21:56 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from [69.61.11.61] (helo=localhost) by washington.hostforweb.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.42) id 1CLzAw-0006qS-SU for ding@gnus.org; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 03:21:55 -0400 Original-To: ding@gnus.org X-Face: #kKnN,xUnmKia.'[pp`;Omh}odZK)?7wQSl"4o04=EixTF+V[""w~iNbM9ZL+.b*_CxUmFk B#Fu[*?MZZH@IkN:!"\w%I_zt>[$nm7nQosZ<3eu;B:$Q_:p!',P.c0-_Cy[dz4oIpw0ESA^D*1Lw= L&i*6&( User-Agent: Gnus/5.110003 (No Gnus v0.3) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:mZr5FIrwRZbvRimTuAADiquiU00= X-Hashcash: 1:17:041025:ding@gnus.org::efTIiXXjZym7ianV:00000oL0 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - washington.hostforweb.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - gnus.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - jpl.org X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Precedence: bulk Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:58973 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:58973 >>>>> In <873c03e2vs.fsf@orebokech.com> Romain Francoise wrote: > Katsumi Yamaoka writes: >> Is there any reason you don't want to use the version of compface.el >> which still exists in the lisp directory? > Yes, I don't have the necessary tools installed, and I don't want to > install them: I find the Elisp-based solution much more elegant and it > reduces the number of external tools Emacs depends on in my setup. > Besides, my system is fast enough to do this in Elisp. Indeed. I think that is good enough too. >> You don't happen to include the contrib directory in load-path, do >> you? I don't think that's a good idea. Instead, you can move >> required modules from the contrib directory to the lisp directory >> before performing `configure; make install'. > In fact I do, it makes it easier to track changes in those files: if I > move them elsewhere I'd have to check that my version and the version in > contrib are the same each time I update Gnus. And I don't do `make > install' at all, I just add the lisp directory to my load-path. (I use it, furthermore, I always make bootstrap Emacs because I think I need to check whether they work. ;-)) > I will modify the Makefile to byte-compile files in contrib in my local > version, then. You might need to do it personally all the time. Although I'm not opposed to making it perform to Makefile by default since it won't take a long time to compile all the contrib modules, I'm not sure it doesn't bring about something bad. >> The best way will be to rewrite the ELisp-based uncompface program by >> someone who can assign or has been assigned the right. > That sounds like a waste of time. :-( Let's hope the original author > will reply soon. For the moment, what I can say is only a joke. Probably he will be in the way of a solo voyage to cross the Pacific Ocean. :-(