From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/59658 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Katsumi Yamaoka Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: timers and itimers Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 14:43:27 +0900 Organization: Emacsen advocacy group Message-ID: References: <87llagbkrt.fsf@orebokech.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1106804749 17286 80.91.229.6 (27 Jan 2005 05:45:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 05:45:49 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ding-owner+M8198@lists.math.uh.edu Thu Jan 27 06:45:42 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1Cu2TO-0001Ng-00 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2005 06:45:42 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1Cu2Rf-00075i-00; Wed, 26 Jan 2005 23:43:55 -0600 Original-Received: from util2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.23]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1Cu2RW-00075a-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Wed, 26 Jan 2005 23:43:46 -0600 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by util2.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1Cu2RQ-0000ru-6U for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Wed, 26 Jan 2005 23:43:40 -0600 Original-Received: from washington.hostforweb.net ([69.61.11.2]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1Cu2RK-0001pH-00 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2005 06:43:34 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by washington.hostforweb.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.44) id 1Cu2RP-0000ht-Np for ding@gnus.org; Thu, 27 Jan 2005 00:43:40 -0500 Original-To: ding@gnus.org X-Face: #kKnN,xUnmKia.'[pp`;Omh}odZK)?7wQSl"4o04=EixTF+V[""w~iNbM9ZL+.b*_CxUmFk B#Fu[*?MZZH@IkN:!"\w%I_zt>[$nm7nQosZ<3eu;B:$Q_:p!',P.c0-_Cy[dz4oIpw0ESA^D*1Lw= L&i*6&( User-Agent: Gnus/5.110003 (No Gnus v0.3) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:AOWw21OQAwxneRogrnpkFOP7mqA= X-Hashcash: 1:20:050127:ding@gnus.org::P6Dv0IBedGaa6NLY:00008tuf X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - washington.hostforweb.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - gnus.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - jpl.org X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Precedence: bulk Original-Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:59658 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:59658 >>>>> In Steve Youngs wrote: > * Katsumi Yamaoka writes: >> What I wished to say is that removing of run-at-time.el troubles >> users of XEmacs 21.4.14 and older and XEmacs 21.5.17 and older. > Well, run-at-time.el doesn't exist in the 5.10 branch, so we have no > worries there. Oh, I recalled that there are `nnheader-xmas-run-at-time' and `pgg-run-at-time' in the v5-10 branch. They are the same as the one that used to be in run-at-time.el. So, I don't need to worry about old XEmacs + Gnus v5-10 users; even if `run-at-time' doesn't work correctly, it does no harm to Gnus. > And most of the people who use Gnus CVS HEAD would more than likely > be the type to keep their XEmacs and XEmacs packages up to date as > well. Indeed. > Having to keep auxiliary software up to date to be able to run bleeding > edge development software like Gnus is normal. It's just the price > you pay. > We could always put a test in gnus-xmas.el to check for the buggy > itimer.el and warn the user that they may experience problems and > should upgrade their XEmacs... > ,---- >| (when (or (and (eq emacs-minor-version 4) >| (<= emacs-patch-level 14)) >| (and (eq emacs-minor-version 5) >| (<= emacs-beta-version 17))) >| (warn "Your version of XEmacs has a buggy itimer. >| You should upgrade to at least XEmacs %s" >| (if emacs-beta-version >| "21.5.18" >| "21.4.16"))) > `---- That's a good idea. Although people who see such a warning might be few, because those who use Gnus in which that code runs seem to upgrade XEmacs everyday. ;-)