From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/56944 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Katsumi Yamaoka Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Fwd: Re: enabling evaporation of overlays Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2004 13:06:15 +0900 Organization: Emacsen advocacy group Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <20040407.205642.89144777.jet@gyve.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: message/rfc822 X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1081438602 31529 80.91.224.253 (8 Apr 2004 15:36:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 15:36:42 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ding-owner+M5482@lists.math.uh.edu Thu Apr 08 17:36:22 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BBbZl-0001mD-00 for ; Thu, 08 Apr 2004 17:36:21 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1BBbYj-0007gH-00; Thu, 08 Apr 2004 10:35:17 -0500 Original-Received: from util2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.23]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1BBQo7-0006Vi-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Wed, 07 Apr 2004 23:06:27 -0500 Original-Received: from justine.libertine.org ([66.139.78.221] ident=postfix) by util2.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1BBQo5-0007Jc-R4 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Wed, 07 Apr 2004 23:06:25 -0500 Original-Received: from washington.hostforweb.net (washington.hostforweb.net [69.61.11.2]) by justine.libertine.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 945743A0058 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2004 23:06:23 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from yamaoka by washington.hostforweb.net with local (Exim 4.24) id 1BBQoS-0008FP-2v for ding@gnus.org; Thu, 08 Apr 2004 00:06:48 -0400 Original-To: ding@gnus.org User-Agent: Gnus/5.110002 (No Gnus v0.2) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:V6RRe6626VOLgaxJrNZk8qRCBDI= X-Hashcash: 0:040408:ding@gnus.org:52be0f37501f1ae3 Content-Disposition: inline X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - washington.hostforweb.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - gnus.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [32041 32041] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - washington.hostforweb.net X-Spam-Score: -4.9 (----) Precedence: bulk Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:56944 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:56944 Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2004 12:57:39 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20040408.125739.44572072.jet@gyve.org> To: yamaoka@jpl.org Cc: ding@gnus.org, mi-ew3m@imarko.dhs.org, matt@stchem.bham.ac.uk, emacs-w3m@namazu.org Subject: Re: enabling evaporation of overlays From: Masatake YAMATO In-Reply-To: References: <20040407.205642.89144777.jet@gyve.org> X-Mailer: Mew version 4.0.62 on Emacs 21.3.50 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) MIME-Version: 1.0 Yamaoka-san wrote: > I heard > Masatake YAMATO is planning to enable evaporation of all > overlays by default. All problems will be solved if it is > realized. The idae is rejected but another idea is suggested by RMS in emacs-devel: How do you think make evaporate overlay's property t by default(when make-overlay)? That would break many programs. It is the wrong solution. I think the right fix is in fix_start_end_in_overlays. When an insertion occurs next to an overlay whose beginning-marker is the advancing kind and whose end-marker is not, the overlay should stay empty. I will follow this idea. Masatake YAMATO