* text/plain; charset=UTF-8 doesn't work anymore
@ 2005-01-14 6:26 Steinar Bang
2005-01-14 9:09 ` Reiner Steib
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Steinar Bang @ 2005-01-14 6:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
Platform: Intel Pentium M, debian sarge (testing),
emacs21 21.3+8,
No Gnus v0.3 (CVS update from today),
mule-ucs 0.84.999+0.20030620-8
UTF-8 characters in articles, show up as two ISO-8859-1 characters for
me.
I think this used to work for me, but I usually use XEmacs to read
email with Gnus. I've just recently switched to GNU Emacs because of
the infloop-when-opening-group bug that has been introduced by an
XEmacs bugfix.
I've tried both without mule-ucs, and with mule-ucs, but that doesn't
seem to make any difference.
Does anyone know if this problem is caused by my choice of Emacs, my
config (eg. locale settings? I recently did a reinstall from the
sarge netinst CD, and let it install for a Norwegian locale), or if
this a recent bug in Gnus?
I noticed that an article with this problem was text/plain using
base64 as its CTE. Perhaps there's something there?
Thanx!
- Steinar
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* Re: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 doesn't work anymore
2005-01-14 6:26 text/plain; charset=UTF-8 doesn't work anymore Steinar Bang
@ 2005-01-14 9:09 ` Reiner Steib
2005-01-14 9:50 ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2005-01-15 9:38 ` Steinar Bang
0 siblings, 2 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Reiner Steib @ 2005-01-14 9:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
On Fri, Jan 14 2005, Steinar Bang wrote:
> Platform: Intel Pentium M, debian sarge (testing),
> emacs21 21.3+8,
> No Gnus v0.3 (CVS update from today),
> mule-ucs 0.84.999+0.20030620-8
>
> UTF-8 characters in articles, show up as two ISO-8859-1 characters for
> me.
[...]
> I've tried both without mule-ucs, and with mule-ucs, but that doesn't
> seem to make any difference.
I'd strongly recommend to get rid of mule-ucs in Emacs 21.
> Does anyone know if this problem is caused by my choice of Emacs, my
> config (eg. locale settings? I recently did a reinstall from the
> sarge netinst CD, and let it install for a Norwegian locale),
Debian... check for `standard-display-european' in your site files and
delete it.
> or if this a recent bug in Gnus?
I don't think there were recent changes in Gnus that might influence
UTF-8 display.
> I noticed that an article with this problem was text/plain using
> base64 as its CTE. Perhaps there's something there?
Please give Message Ids of those articles. Without MIDs it's just
guessing.
Bye, Reiner.
--
,,,
(o o)
---ooO-(_)-Ooo--- | PGP key available | http://rsteib.home.pages.de/
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* Re: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 doesn't work anymore
2005-01-14 9:09 ` Reiner Steib
@ 2005-01-14 9:50 ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2005-01-14 12:04 ` Reiner Steib
2005-01-15 9:38 ` Steinar Bang
1 sibling, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Katsumi Yamaoka @ 2005-01-14 9:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
>>>>> In <v9acrcs7fk.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> Reiner Steib wrote:
> I'd strongly recommend to get rid of mule-ucs in Emacs 21.
But it is essential if a user want to encode Japanese (and
possibly Chinese, Korean, etc.) text with the released versions
of Emacs 21 (i.e., 21.3 and earlier). Try the following without
Mule-UCS.
(let ((str (string (make-char 'japanese-jisx0208 36 34))))
(list str
(decode-coding-string
(encode-coding-string str 'utf-8)
'utf-8)))
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* Re: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 doesn't work anymore
2005-01-14 9:50 ` Katsumi Yamaoka
@ 2005-01-14 12:04 ` Reiner Steib
0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Reiner Steib @ 2005-01-14 12:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
On Fri, Jan 14 2005, Katsumi Yamaoka wrote:
>>>>>> In <v9acrcs7fk.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> Reiner Steib wrote:
>
>> I'd strongly recommend to get rid of mule-ucs in Emacs 21.
>
> But it is essential if a user want to encode Japanese (and
> possibly Chinese, Korean, etc.) text with the released versions
> of Emacs 21 (i.e., 21.3 and earlier).
Sorry, I wasn't aware of this. I know that CJK support in Emacs 21.3
is not very good. As Steinar is from Norway, this is probably not
very important for him, though.
I seem to remember that Mule-UCS has some problem with Emacs 21.
> Try the following without Mule-UCS.
>
> (let ((str (string (make-char 'japanese-jisx0208 36 34))))
> (list str
> (decode-coding-string
> (encode-coding-string str 'utf-8)
> 'utf-8)))
,----
| *** Welcome to IELM *** Type (describe-mode) for help.
| ELISP> (let ((str (string (make-char 'japanese-jisx0208 36 34))))
| (list str
| (decode-coding-string
| (encode-coding-string str 'utf-8)
| 'utf-8)))
| ("あ" "�")
|
| ELISP> emacs-version
| "21.3.1"
| ELISP>
`----
Okay, it should have been the same character, I guess, but it isn't:
,----
| character: あ (0151042, 53794, 0xd222)
| charset: japanese-jisx0208 (JISX0208.1983/1990 Japanese Kanji: ISO-IR-87)
| code point: 36 34
| syntax: word
| category: H:Japanese Hiragana characters of 2-byte character sets
| j:Japanese
| |:While filling, we can break a line at this character.
| buffer code: 0x92 0xA4 0xA2
| file code: not encodable by coding system iso-latin-9
| font: -Misc-Fixed-Medium-R-Normal--14-130-75-75-C-140-JISX0208.1983-0
`----
,----
| character: � (01175275, 326333, 0x4fabd)
| charset: mule-unicode-e000-ffff
| (Unicode characters of the range U+E000..U+FFFF.)
| code point: 117 61
| syntax: word
| category:
| buffer code: 0x9C 0xF3 0xF5 0xBD
| file code: not encodable by coding system iso-latin-9
| font: -Misc-Fixed-Medium-R-Normal--14-130-75-75-C-70-ISO10646-1
`----
Bye, Reiner.
--
,,,
(o o)
---ooO-(_)-Ooo--- | PGP key available | http://rsteib.home.pages.de/
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* Re: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 doesn't work anymore
2005-01-14 9:09 ` Reiner Steib
2005-01-14 9:50 ` Katsumi Yamaoka
@ 2005-01-15 9:38 ` Steinar Bang
2005-01-15 17:51 ` Steinar Bang
1 sibling, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Steinar Bang @ 2005-01-15 9:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
>>>>> Reiner Steib <reinersteib+gmane@imap.cc>:
> I'd strongly recommend to get rid of mule-ucs in Emacs 21.
OK. I only pulled in as an experiment, and it conflicts with nxml
anyway.
> Debian... check for `standard-display-european' in your site files and
> delete it.
Actually it was in my ~/.emacs (which has its origins back in 1988,
and has collected a lot of... er... stuff, since then).
I've disabled it for GNU Emacs 21.
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* Re: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 doesn't work anymore
2005-01-15 9:38 ` Steinar Bang
@ 2005-01-15 17:51 ` Steinar Bang
0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Steinar Bang @ 2005-01-15 17:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
>>>>> Steinar Bang <sb@dod.no>:
>>>>> Reiner Steib <reinersteib+gmane@imap.cc>:
>> Debian... check for `standard-display-european' in your site files and
>> delete it.
> Actually it was in my ~/.emacs (which has its origins back in 1988,
> and has collected a lot of... er... stuff, since then).
> I've disabled it for GNU Emacs 21.
And I forgot to say: that fixed the UTF-8 article problem.
Thanx!
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