From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/59053 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Katsumi Yamaoka Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: asterisks disappear Date: Fri, 05 Nov 2004 21:03:12 +0900 Organization: Emacsen advocacy group Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1099656266 22099 80.91.229.6 (5 Nov 2004 12:04:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 12:04:26 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ding-owner+M7593@lists.math.uh.edu Fri Nov 05 13:04:09 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13] ident=mail) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CQ2p7-0006xY-00 for ; Fri, 05 Nov 2004 13:04:09 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1CQ2oa-0000Eo-00; Fri, 05 Nov 2004 06:03:36 -0600 Original-Received: from util2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.23]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1CQ2oT-0000Ei-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Fri, 05 Nov 2004 06:03:29 -0600 Original-Received: from justine.libertine.org ([66.139.78.221] ident=postfix) by util2.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1CQ2oR-0004B4-7O for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Fri, 05 Nov 2004 06:03:27 -0600 Original-Received: from washington.hostforweb.net (washington.hostforweb.net [69.61.11.2]) by justine.libertine.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6FD03A01FD for ; Fri, 5 Nov 2004 06:03:26 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by washington.hostforweb.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.42) id 1CQ2oN-00022S-Cb for ding@gnus.org; Fri, 05 Nov 2004 07:03:24 -0500 Original-To: ding@gnus.org X-Face: #kKnN,xUnmKia.'[pp`;Omh}odZK)?7wQSl"4o04=EixTF+V[""w~iNbM9ZL+.b*_CxUmFk B#Fu[*?MZZH@IkN:!"\w%I_zt>[$nm7nQosZ<3eu;B:$Q_:p!',P.c0-_Cy[dz4oIpw0ESA^D*1Lw= L&i*6&( User-Agent: Gnus/5.110003 (No Gnus v0.3) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:oL7s/bXjZExvpno3DDp1VXJhYCg= X-Hashcash: 1:17:041105:ding@gnus.org::hX9jwi/Hsu3xLGcJ:000001Ay X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - washington.hostforweb.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - gnus.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - jpl.org X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Precedence: bulk Original-Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:59053 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:59053 >>>>> In Reiner Steib wrote: > On Fri, Nov 05 2004, Katsumi Yamaoka wrote: >> `gnus-treat-emphasize' is 50000 by default and Gnus users cannot >> see asterisks which surround words. Although I know what a bold >> text means, all users aren't so. I am perplexed when telling >> someone "Try it on the *scratch* buffer". WDYT? > I agree. How do other clients that treat emphasis character handle > this (e.g. Mozilla, Thunderbird, ...)? Oh, Mozilla doesn't but Netscape 7.1 emphasize it as a bold text without hiding asterisks. It may be better that Gnus follows it. > I have used the following for quite some time: > ;; keep emphasis characters around after emphasis > (require 'gnus-art) > (setq gnus-emphasis-alist ; > (mapcar (lambda (x) > (list (car x) (nth 2 x) (nth 2 x) (nth 3 x))) > gnus-emphasis-alist)) > ;; don't do strikethru > (setq gnus-emphasis-alist ; > (delq nil (mapcar > (lambda (x) > (if (eq (car (last x)) 'gnus-emphasis-strikethru) nil x)) > gnus-emphasis-alist))) > (strikethru is already switched off by default now, IIRC) Thanks. It does just what I wrote. However, it will be hard to spread this to all users, especially newcomers.