From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/59762 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: gmail-like mail backend? Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2005 17:08:10 +0900 Message-ID: Reply-To: Miles Bader NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1107960828 731 80.91.229.2 (9 Feb 2005 14:53:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 14:53:48 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ding-owner+M8302@lists.math.uh.edu Wed Feb 09 15:53:47 2005 Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13] ident=mail) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CytCQ-0004h7-Co for ding-account@gmane.org; Wed, 09 Feb 2005 15:52:15 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1Cyt5N-0008Hu-00; Wed, 09 Feb 2005 08:44:57 -0600 Original-Received: from util2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.23]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1Cymtk-0007w8-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Wed, 09 Feb 2005 02:08:32 -0600 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by util2.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1Cymtd-0003TV-G8 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Wed, 09 Feb 2005 02:08:25 -0600 Original-Received: from tyo202.gate.nec.co.jp ([210.143.35.52]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CymtX-0008Lm-00 for ; Wed, 09 Feb 2005 09:08:20 +0100 Original-Received: from mailgate3.nec.co.jp (mailgate53.nec.co.jp [10.7.69.160] (may be forged)) by tyo202.gate.nec.co.jp (8.11.7/3.7W01080315) with ESMTP id j1988Gg29656; Wed, 9 Feb 2005 17:08:16 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: (from root@localhost) by mailgate3.nec.co.jp (8.11.7/3.7W-MAILGATE-NEC) id j1988G421176; Wed, 9 Feb 2005 17:08:16 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: from edsgm02.lsi.nec.co.jp ([10.50.208.12]) by mailsv5.nec.co.jp (8.11.7/3.7W-MAILSV4-NEC) with ESMTP id j1988Fv12869; Wed, 9 Feb 2005 17:08:15 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: from mcsss2.ucom.lsi.nec.co.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by edsgm02.lsi.nec.co.jp (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j1988EcJ004000; Wed, 9 Feb 2005 17:08:14 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: from mctpc71 (mctpc71.ucom.lsi.nec.co.jp [10.30.118.121]) by mcsss2.ucom.lsi.nec.co.jp (8.12.10/8.12.8/EDcg v2.01-mc/1046780839) with ESMTP id j1988BKt010584; Wed, 9 Feb 2005 17:08:11 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by mctpc71 (Postfix, from userid 31295) id 2430D3F0; Wed, 9 Feb 2005 17:08:11 +0900 (JST) Original-To: ding@gnus.org System-Type: i686-pc-linux-gnu Blat: Foop Original-Lines: 23 X-Spam-Score: -4.7 (----) Precedence: bulk Original-Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu X-MailScanner-From: ding-owner+m8302@lists.math.uh.edu X-MailScanner-To: ding-account@gmane.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:59762 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:59762 I've come to really like the gmail notion of "groups" (really called "labels") actually just being views into a big pool of messages, so that a single message can easily exist in many groups, and things that happen to that message (mark it as read, delete it) are immediately visible in all relevant groups. Another nice thing (in general) is that it ends to operate on threads as a whole, rather than individual messages; e.g., if you add a particular "label" to a thread, subsequent replies that arrive in that same thread show up in all relevant labels/groups, without the need to add classify them. Moving threads around is very lightweight. I wonder how hard would it be to have somethings niceness in gnus? Gnus already has the notion of crossposts from news, but the pervasive use of group-specific article-number ranges seems somewhat problematic. Anyway just food for thought. I like using Emacs to read email a lot more than using a web-browser, but Gnus is seeming a bit clunky at the moment compared to gmail... -Miles -- "Suppose we've chosen the wrong god. Every time we go to church we're just making him madder and madder." -- Homer Simpson