From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/67716 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: gnus should accept UTF8 even if UTF-8 is standard Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 16:24:40 +0900 Message-ID: References: <87iqruvs19.fsf@jidanni.org> <86od1mj3z2.fsf@lifelogs.com> <86od1lg3xq.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87d4i1iqpq.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> <86k5c9fzm9.fsf@lifelogs.com> <878wsph5xr.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> <87wsg345oo.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> <86wsg2546l.fsf@lifelogs.com> <86abct3o4s.fsf@lifelogs.com> Reply-To: Miles Bader NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1225437922 28961 80.91.229.12 (31 Oct 2008 07:25:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 07:25:22 +0000 (UTC) Cc: tzz@lifelogs.com, rms@gnu.org, ding@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Kenichi Handa Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 31 08:26:06 2008 connect(): Connection refused Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KvoOU-0000j1-3M for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 08:26:06 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34409 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KvoNN-0002nm-Da for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 03:24:57 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KvoNH-0002ki-Py for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 03:24:51 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KvoNF-0002jZ-Ac for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 03:24:50 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=34888 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KvoNF-0002jV-6G for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 03:24:49 -0400 Original-Received: from mx20.gnu.org ([199.232.41.8]:4771) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KvoNC-0007n3-A8; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 03:24:46 -0400 Original-Received: from tyo201.gate.nec.co.jp ([202.32.8.193]) by mx20.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KvoNA-0002WW-Ss; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 03:24:45 -0400 Original-Received: from relay31.aps.necel.com ([10.29.19.54]) by tyo201.gate.nec.co.jp (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id m9V7OWkH029931; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 16:24:41 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: from relay21.aps.necel.com ([10.29.19.24] [10.29.19.24]) by relay31.aps.necel.com with ESMTP; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 16:24:41 +0900 Original-Received: from dhapc248.dev.necel.com ([10.114.112.215] [10.114.112.215]) by relay21.aps.necel.com with ESMTP; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 16:24:41 +0900 Original-Received: by dhapc248.dev.necel.com (Postfix, from userid 31295) id 0A8E1444; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 16:24:40 +0900 (JST) System-Type: i686-pc-linux-gnu Blat: Foop In-Reply-To: (Kenichi Handa's message of "Fri, 31 Oct 2008 15:33:29 +0900") Original-Lines: 16 X-detected-kernel: by mx20.gnu.org: Solaris 8 (1) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:105179 gmane.emacs.gnus.general:67716 Archived-At: Kenichi Handa writes: > I still thinks completing "utf8" to "utf-8" is the best > method. Even for a filename, if there's a file "test-a" and > I type "tes-a TAB", it is expanded to "test-a". So, > changing "utf8" to "utf-8" doesn't look that strange. Also if you have e.g. `read-file-name-completion-ignore-case', completing a filename "corrects" its case to match what's on disk. This works quite well, and I think is very natural from a user's point of view. -Miles -- We have met the enemy, and he is us. -- Pogo