From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/8271 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jan Vroonhof Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Problems w/ rgnus-0.49 and tm-7.89 (was Re: Feedback on new Customization) Date: 10 Oct 1996 11:32:47 +0200 Sender: vroonhof@math.ethz.ch Message-ID: References: <24453.844790128@splat.niehs.nih.gov> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.71) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035148459 11137 80.91.224.250 (20 Oct 2002 21:14:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 21:14:19 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: (qmail 25636 invoked from smtpd); 10 Oct 1996 10:19:26 -0000 Original-Received: from ifi.uio.no (0@129.240.64.2) by deanna.miranova.com with SMTP; 10 Oct 1996 10:19:22 -0000 Original-Received: from frege.math.ethz.ch (root@frege-math-bb.math.ethz.ch [129.132.148.14]) by ifi.uio.no with ESMTP (8.6.11/ifi2.4) id for ; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 11:33:45 +0200 Original-Received: from fresnel.math.ethz.ch (vroonhof@fresnel-d-math-south-g-servers.math.ethz.ch [129.132.145.6]) by frege.math.ethz.ch (8.6.4/Main-mathdept-mailer) with ESMTP id KAA02546 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 10:33:43 +0100 Original-Received: (vroonhof@localhost) by fresnel.math.ethz.ch (8.6.9/D-MATH-client) id LAA19088; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 11:32:48 +0200 Original-To: ding@ifi.uio.no In-Reply-To: Raja R Harinath's message of 09 Oct 1996 19:51:46 -0500 Original-Lines: 28 X-Mailer: Red Gnus v0.49/XEmacs 19.14 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:8271 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:8271 Raja R Harinath writes: > A bit of snooping told me this: I use tm-7.89, which includes > `gnus-mime.el'. gnus-mime checks if `gnus-load' has been loaded (as a > test for Red Gnus), and if it is absent, it "helpfully" provides the > features gnus-sum and gnus-art, thus preventing the loading of the > actual files later. And rgnus-0.49 does away with `gnus-load'. I think it is a tm problem. It really tries to support to many versions of gnus. It should just hook itself in to the appropriate hooks and that's it. I think the relevant hooks have been there and remained the same for quite some time now, The sametyhing is true for the installation procedure. It is a pain in the ass because it dissables loading of all system init files thereby throwing away information about installed software and then wants the paths to all relevant reading software to figure out what versions to have. <\GRIPE> Jan P.S. The last version tm version I have is from june where I just didn't give it any information about gnus and did the hooking myself. I am perfectly happy with it now. tm is a great piece of software, it is really is a pittyit tries to be too smart.