From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/18389 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jan Vroonhof Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: pop server access? Date: 04 Nov 1998 19:00:08 +0100 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <2nzpa7sxvo.fsf@zsh.cs.rochester.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035156921 5905 80.91.224.250 (20 Oct 2002 23:35:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 23:35:21 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from fisher.math.uh.edu (fisher.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.35]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA19594 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 13:01:26 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by fisher.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAB06406; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 12:00:54 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Wed, 04 Nov 1998 12:00:37 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (root@sclp3.sclp.com [209.195.19.139]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA25450 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 12:00:27 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from frege.math.ethz.ch (root@frege-d-math-north-g-west.math.ethz.ch [129.132.145.3]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA19576 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 13:00:16 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from bolzano (vroonhof@bolzano [129.132.146.140]) by frege.math.ethz.ch (8.8.8/Main-STAT-mailer) with ESMTP id TAA07143 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 19:00:07 +0100 (MET) Original-Received: (vroonhof@localhost) by bolzano (SMI-8.6/D-MATH-client) id TAA17383; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 19:00:08 +0100 Original-To: ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: Stainless Steel Rat's message of "Wed, 04 Nov 1998 15:54:37 GMT" Original-Lines: 33 User-Agent: Gnus/5.07004 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.40) XEmacs/21.0 (Pyrenean-pre6) Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:18389 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:18389 Stainless Steel Rat writes: > I dunnow which is worse, FSF Emacs for being st00pid, or XEmacs for being > st00pid in a diametrically opposed fashion. [I think in this case FSF for being a changing target to stay compatible with and ignoring the prior mule implementation in Xemacs. However it does't really matter.] Sigh, it just that there is binary -- Fully transparant raw-text -- just EOL conversion These work in both Emacsen. On FSF Emacs no-conversion == binary and the documentation talks about no-conversion in that context. On FSF XEmacs no-conversion == raw-text and the documentation talks about no-conversion in that context (minibuffer also shows the raw text coding system as NoConv). So if we could just get both .texi files to just talk about binary and raw-text and let no-conversion die that would be very nice. Jan P.S. To add to your pain there is also EOL conversion in non-mule Emacsen (for DOS/Win support).