From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/58536 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ralf Angeli Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Gnus losing information about what has been read Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 10:52:27 +0200 Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Message-ID: References: Reply-To: angeli@iwi.uni-sb.de NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1095756672 11443 80.91.229.6 (21 Sep 2004 08:51:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 08:51:12 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ding-owner+M7074@lists.math.uh.edu Tue Sep 21 10:51:05 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13] ident=mail) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1C9gMa-0004jl-00 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2004 10:51:05 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1C9gMT-0007Gg-00; Tue, 21 Sep 2004 03:50:57 -0500 Original-Received: from util2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.23]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1C9gMP-0007Gb-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 21 Sep 2004 03:50:53 -0500 Original-Received: from justine.libertine.org ([66.139.78.221] ident=postfix) by util2.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1C9gMN-0007g1-UN for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 21 Sep 2004 03:50:51 -0500 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by justine.libertine.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA8923A005A for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2004 03:50:49 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from list by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1C9gML-0007gf-00 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2004 10:50:49 +0200 Original-Received: from dialin-212-144-186-211.arcor-ip.net ([212.144.186.211]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2004 10:50:49 +0200 Original-Received: from angeli by dialin-212-144-186-211.arcor-ip.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2004 10:50:49 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: ding@gnus.org Original-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Lines: 41 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: dialin-212-144-186-211.arcor-ip.net Mail-Copies-To: nobody Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwCAMAAABg3Am1AAAANlBMVEUAAAD7+vVSPEL+/v79 /v1rDy/y7uQtAhK3tbD99doDAALV08n////+//78/fw7ARdgBieLg4LQmlLpAAACPklEQVR4nK2V 27KrMAiGTUCC0OLi/V92kRitp73HziwuOq3m4+cQ6PD60oY/AVCZEzwHkBXZ6Tmgikmc7yVuAGQD UOLHCqgEL7DnCpCYEFUfK1TCs9tz4AXokvEL4AUq5RuFF5DIF30IwES+SLoSRZ73Ifyri+To3xMA AMxlkDCPjsMZugLEWYZmkp3p/wAaeRl2JsXJENDwCgBgXKAiMhyIkMk5+zYeGwBG7J4P/ltYzYPk lfgAfD7bFSQEQpfxBCSpb6+Aa6SQONMZsOxK6VOifn6ZiigG2xEA1Vp0SOR7Ii/NI+d1PlbAFg+Y i+5z8SWQuO3GR6A7AM/Jd0A/FQrYR3YD+m02xF1MkQL0Htk/gKbfzvbrtD6lUw601hksWlVy9LBW XxT603OVMHZjfQfI4XeKLZCdtEgmeLfz5z7U3WJtFMKvTrnGw1OMReHaHd4i3t0lj2LzEk98cVeN 4ntDM8IFiLzbK9cprH0spl52ue+BGLTC05252/sGwJTp9vw0MV2Aeo/IWwjcTav58t1OOcTgx6YY R47jyqafFFRtV6INqLM8VvMIim2fCZsnvABA42pRTdoB5DEJ7yMQs/8535iltDUbrx4OC60BqcYT TSg/4425nUIC4Hhc2kzLDeJ4DimNTaBviZD5mRs3N8VMh3+KCqwC22IRiQfzOEvfsEcgbt1HYNuQ s5RwUtdYOQFv06reHB/2V/1dgXWGVmAVCFdyPF+ntMQK8RNAY6/pvKUd80AxERXKsZsOwC94/1VQ /4fx6QAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== User-Agent: Gnus/5.110003 (No Gnus v0.3) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:MsKTFct2pAiwxnsiUdxxcZxl4Lo= Precedence: bulk Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:58536 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:58536 * Jan Rychter (2004-09-21) writes: > [Quoting my post from about 2 weeks ago...] >>>>>> "Jan" == Jan Rychter writes: > Jan> Ok. My Gnus has just forgotten which articles I have read in some > Jan> groups. Again. I have long had the impression that it does that > Jan> behind my back sometimes, but I was never sure enough. This time > Jan> I'm quite sure, because it has forgotten about roughly 1k > Jan> articles. > > Jan> This seems to happen for me in agentized groups that I read while > Jan> unplugged -- after I go online again, the articles are visible as > Jan> "unread", again. > > Jan> I'm using No Gnus 0.3, updated from CVS on Aug 5, under XEmacs -- > Jan> but I'm quite sure the problem has been there for quite some time. > > Jan> Any ideas? > > I am rather alarmed by the number of responses to this report -- namely: > zero. > > Am I the only one who sees that? I don't know exactly if it is the same problem, but for me Gnus forgets marks with the following usage pattern: When being online, start Gnus in "Plugged" state (`emacs -f gnus'). Download new (nntp) articles with `J s' into the agent. Go into "Unplugged" state with `J j'. Read the new articles or mark them as read, e.g. with `c y'. Close Gnus with `q y' and close Emacs. Start Emacs/Gnus again in "Plugged" state. The read articles will be marked unread again. (If it doesn't "work" the first time, maybe try the pattern once again.) One can distinguish read articles which are not marked as read from really new articles. The latter have an unseen mark (`.') in the summary buffer. Those problems started with the introduction of marks for nntp. -- Ralf