Hi everybody, when I try to enter the group gmane.linux.debian.devel.emacsen by typing `1 9 RET' in the Group buffer, the following backtrace results: Debugger entered--Lisp error: (args-out-of-range -69 141) delete-region(141 -69) (if (> (current-column) 62) (delete-region (point) (- ... ...)) (insert (make-string ... 32))) (progn (if (> ... 62) (delete-region ... ...) (insert ...))) (progn (insert (format ":%c%c %-16s |%s %s " gnus-tmp-unread gnus-tmp-replied ... gnus-tmp-thread-tree-header-string gnus-tmp-subject-or-nil)) (progn (if ... ... ...)) (insert (format " |%4s |%s\n" gnus-tmp-lines ...))) eval((progn (insert (format ":%c%c %-16s |%s %s " gnus-tmp-unread gnus-tmp-replied ... gnus-tmp-thread-tree-header-string gnus-tmp-subject-or-nil)) (progn (if ... ... ...)) (insert (format " |%4s |%s\n" gnus-tmp-lines ...)))) gnus-summary-prepare-threads((([1209 "\xd0f6\xe624\xdf35\xe17a\xd248\xdcd8\xe349\xd2e1\xd2eb\xd2de\xd2ac\xd123\xd1b3\xd92f\xd8df\xd0a2\xd1b5\xd92f\xd8df\xe2f9\xd24e\xde7d\xe37e\xde54\xe133\xded0\xd0a6\xe5dc\xe2f6\xd22b\xe45d\xd22b\xd24f\xdf5a\xdaf2\xd247\xd9ce\xe3a7\xd247\xd22d\xd26b\xd0a6\xd123\xd86c\xd24b\xdfcd\xd0a6\xe373\xd24b\xe5fe\xe12d\xd24a\xd22a\xdb62\xd0a6\xddb0\xd24b\xde2b\xe6b3\xd24b\xe37e\xd26b\xe52a\xd0ca\xd861\xdfa9\xdebb\xd0cb\xd24f\xe5ad\xd22b\xd24a\xdfcd\xe038\xd123\xdbca\xdaa4\xd973\xe4fc\xd9ab\xddcf\xd24e\xddfe\xd233\xd23d\xd2c1\xd2e3\xd2f3\xd2b9\xd0a1\xd0a1\xd0a1\xd0a1\xd0a1\xd0a1\xd0a1\xd0a1\xd0a1\xd0a1\xd0a1\xd0a1\xd0a1\xd0a1\xd0a1\xd0a1\xd0a1\xd0a1\xd0a1\xd0a1\xd0a1\xd0a1\xd0a1\xd0a1\xd0a1\xd0a1\xd0a1\xd0a1\xd0a1\xd0a1\xd0a1\xd0a1\xd0a1\xd0a1\xd0a1" "\xd1b6\xe069\xe5fc\xd8df\xd24e\xd9cd\xe340\xe57d\xe5a1\xd0a6\xe42f\xdcd4\xd0a6\xdbd0\xdd51\xe538\xdc4b\xde52\xd2e1\xd2eb\xd2de\xd2ac\xd2b8\xd2f3\xe1b4\xe2f6 " "Sat, 20 Nov 2004 23:51:59 +0900 (JST)" "<5388864.1100962319219.JavaMail.nobody@hr_01_rev_a>" "" 9985 95 "main.gmane.org gmane.linux.debian.devel.emacsen:1209" nil]) ([1210 "Emacsen startup scripts" "J\xf69r\xf74me Marant " "Sun, 21 Nov 2004 16:41:44 +0100" "<87zn1bfbuv.fsf@marant.org>" "" 3210 22 "main.gmane.org gmane.linux.debian.devel.emacsen:1210" nil] ([1211 "Re: Emacsen startup scripts" "Kai Grossjohann " "Sun, 21 Nov 2004 21:17:29 +0100" "<86ekinyn1i.fsf@ketchup.de.uu.net>" "<87zn1bfbuv.fsf@marant.org>" 3974 22 "main.gmane.org gmane.linux.debian.devel.emacsen:1211" nil] ...)) ([1214 "last upgrade 3/2003" "Dan Jacobson " "Mon, 22 Nov 2004 05:25:34 +0800" "<877joej3n5.fsf@jidanni.org>" "" 2981 8 "main.gmane.org gmane.linux.debian.devel.emacsen:1214" nil] ([1215 "Re: last upgrade 3/2003" "J\xf69r\xf74me Marant " "Mon, 22 Nov 2004 21:35:43 +0100" "<87zn19zko0.fsf@marant.org>" "<877joej3n5.fsf@jidanni.org>" 3384 17 "main.gmane.org gmane.linux.debian.devel.emacsen:1215" nil])) ([1216 "bug #281129 - emacsen-common" "Michael Prokop " "Sat, 27 Nov 2004 15:03:13 +0100" "<2004-11-27T14-51-24@devnull.michael-prokop.at>" "" 4106 37 "main.gmane.org gmane.linux.debian.devel.emacsen:1216" nil]) ([1217 "language settings in emacs" "ray@nabuli.de" "Mon, 06 Dec 2004 23:10:29 +0100" "<20041206221030.34CBDBC30@atmalok>" "" 5406 61 "main.gmane.org gmane.linux.debian.devel.emacsen:1217" nil]) ([1218 "\xd2c9\xd2ea\xd0bc\xd2e0\xd2a8\xd2af\xd2b9\xd2d7\xd2ec\xd2b9\xd247\xd239" "miya@dream-express.co.jp" "9 Dec 2004 11:45:31 +0900" "<20041209024531.29960.qmail@mail.ohs.estore.co.jp>" "" 3456 23 "main.gmane.org gmane.linux.debian.devel.emacsen:1218" nil]) ([1219 "Error while loading 50... due to debian-pkg-add-load-path-item?" "Peter S Galbraith " "Wed, 15 Dec 2004 15:20:18 -0500" "<20041215202018.A693FD9EB2@mixing.qc.dfo.ca>" "" 3841 26 "main.gmane.org gmane.linux.debian.devel.emacsen:1219" nil] ([1220 "Bug#270388: Error while loading 50... due to debian-pkg-add-load-path-item?" "ucko@debian.org (Aaron M. Ucko)" "Wed, 15 Dec 2004 15:40:43 -0500" "" "<20041215202018.A693FD9EB2@mixing.qc.dfo.ca>" 5118 18 "main.gmane.org gmane.linux.debian.devel.bugs.rc:43145 gmane.linux.debian.devel.emacsen:1220" nil] ... ...)) ([1224 "Found a bteter soultoin" "\"Milo Bergman\" " "Fri, 17 Dec 2004 23:09:00 -0600" "<28269757047606.062izb95202pk__26933.3616052338$1103348064$gmane$org@hotmail.com>" "" 8152 143 "main.gmane.org gmane.spam.detected:424473 gmane.linux.debian.devel.emacsen:1224" nil]) ([1225 "find yourself" "\" Ferris\" " "Fri, 17 Dec 2004 23:08:13 -0600" "" "" 5733 51 "main.gmane.org gmane.spam.detected:424534 gmane.linux.debian.devel.emacsen:1225" nil]) ([1226 "CNEL\xa6c6\x99f6\x9ce3\x9c66\x9bfe\xa771\x9a73\xa9c5\x9ddd 14:2:8:176" "\xab50\x9cfa\x9ca4\xa935\x9ae7\xa377\xa6f8 " "Sat, 18 Dec 2004 14:02:16 +0800" "<20041218055851.5A63F2E1CA@murphy.debian.org>" "" 14740 243 "main.gmane.org gmane.linux.debian.devel.emacsen:1226 gmane.spam.detected:424680" nil]) ([1227 "V`iagra is out of fashion, find out why" "\"Bernardo Ramey\" " "Sat, 18 Dec 2004 10:46:38 +0000" "" "" 3877 19 "main.gmane.org gmane.linux.debian.devel.emacsen:1227 gmane.spam.detected:424895" nil]))) gnus-summary-prepare() gnus-summary-read-group-1("nntp+news.gmane.org:gmane.linux.debian.devel.emacsen" t t nil nil nil) gnus-summary-read-group("nntp+news.gmane.org:gmane.linux.debian.devel.emacsen" t t nil nil nil nil) gnus-group-read-group(nil t) gnus-group-select-group(nil) gnus-topic-select-group(nil) call-interactively(gnus-topic-select-group) In my .gnus file I set `gnus-summary-line-format' like this: (setq gnus-summary-line-format ":%U%R %-16,16f |%B %s %-62= |%4L |%&user-date;\n") The cause of the above error seems to be a wrong calculation of the second argument of `delete-region' in `gnus-spec-tab'. With the following change I can enter the group mentioned above: