From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/49330 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Derrell.Lipman@UnwiredUniverse.com Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: a short introduction to Gnus vs. Spam with spam.el Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 09:21:42 -0500 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: Reply-To: Derrell.Lipman@UnwiredUniverse.com NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1042813315 631 80.91.224.249 (17 Jan 2003 14:21:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 14:21:55 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18ZXNY-00009y-00 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 15:21:52 +0100 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 18ZXNm-0005Ta-00; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 08:22:06 -0600 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Fri, 17 Jan 2003 08:23:02 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (sclp3.sclp.com [66.230.238.2]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA16295 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 08:22:51 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: (qmail 24069 invoked by alias); 17 Jan 2003 14:21:50 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 24063 invoked from network); 17 Jan 2003 14:21:49 -0000 Original-Received: from h0080ad81a8d6.ne.client2.attbi.com (HELO chaos.localnet.unwireduniverse.com) (24.147.249.152) by 66.230.238.6 with SMTP; 17 Jan 2003 14:21:49 -0000 Original-Received: from random.localnet.unwireduniverse.com (mail@random.localnet.UnwiredUniverse.com [192.168.1.9]) by chaos.localnet.unwireduniverse.com (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id h0HELme0010857 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 09:21:48 -0500 Original-Received: from derrell by random.localnet.unwireduniverse.com with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18ZXNU-0001qD-00 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 09:21:48 -0500 Original-To: Ding Mailing List Mail-Followup-To: ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: (Ted Zlatanov's message of "Fri, 17 Jan 2003 06:44:04 -0500") Original-Lines: 36 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090006 (Oort Gnus v0.06) XEmacs/21.4 (Common Lisp, i386-debian-linux) Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:49330 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:49330 Ted Zlatanov writes: > At http://lifelogs.com/spam/ > ... > Feel free to send me feedback, Nice! Just a few comments: - The diagram in the introduction shows Spam and Ham going into the MTA, but the Concepts section defines Spam and Ham as distinct from "undetermined messages" Shouldn't the diagram really show just "Undetermined Messages" (possibly with Spam/Ham in parenthesis or something)? - Concepts should include a definition of "undetermined messages" - In Spliting Incoming Mail, spam-use-ifile says that the user has a choice of using ifile for all classification or using it only for spam, but there's no indication (at least not in this section) of how to specify that choice. - While reading this, I'm asking myself why I can't use multiple spam splitters and processors. Is there some reason not to use bogofilter and blacklist, for example? It seems from the early text, that the user must choose one. The later screen shots indicate that multiple processors may be checked. - 'H' as a spam mark seems counter-intuitive when the opposite is Ham. (I realize that 'S' isn't available, but this is worth some consideration.) I'm waiting until I upgrade to a newer Oort before using spam.el (I'm currently still running 0.06) but I'm sure looking forward to it! Cheers, Derrell