From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/8264 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Raja R Harinath Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Problems w/ rgnus-0.49 and tm-7.89 (was Re: Feedback on new Customization) Date: 09 Oct 1996 19:51:46 -0500 Sender: harinath@cs.umn.edu Message-ID: References: <24453.844790128@splat.niehs.nih.gov> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.89) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035148454 11097 80.91.224.250 (20 Oct 2002 21:14:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 21:14:14 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: (qmail 25023 invoked from smtpd); 10 Oct 1996 04:39:27 -0000 Original-Received: from ifi.uio.no (0@129.240.64.2) by deanna.miranova.com with SMTP; 10 Oct 1996 04:39:27 -0000 Original-Received: from mail.cs.umn.edu (mail.cs.umn.edu [128.101.149.1]) by ifi.uio.no with ESMTP (8.6.11/ifi2.4) id for ; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 06:16:15 +0200 Original-Received: from tera.cs.umn.edu (root@tera.cs.umn.edu [128.101.224.9]) by mail.cs.umn.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA05267 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 23:16:00 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: (harinath@localhost) by tera.cs.umn.edu (8.6.11/8.6.12) id TAA27218; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 19:51:47 -0500 Original-To: ding@ifi.uio.no In-Reply-To: Raja R Harinath's message of 08 Oct 1996 19:30:19 -0500 Original-Lines: 32 X-Mailer: Red Gnus v0.49/Emacs 19.34 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:8264 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:8264 Raja R Harinath writes: > I have other problems with custom. It looks like `defcustom' doesn't > work when loaded from `.emacs'. > > I have a `gnus-no-server' in my `.emacs', and it immediately starts > complaining. Basically, the problem is that `defcustom' symbols aren't > being bound. When I do a `load-library' on the appropriate file, things > work fine. > > A case to point, I have `gnus-use-grouplens', which makes Gnus load > `gnus-gl', which requires `gnus-score', which uses `gnus-read-mark'. > This hiccups, since `gnus-read-mark' isn't bound. I check the > `features', and, yes `gnus-sum' (where `gnus-read-mark' is declared) has > been loaded. I do M-x load-library gnus-sum, and restart gnus. It > passes that point, hits `gnus-article-save-directory', and dies. Well, > I check features: `gnus-art' is loaded too. I do M-x load-library > gnus-art, restart gnus, and all works well. I couldn't have been more wrong. A bit of snooping told me this: I use tm-7.89, which includes `gnus-mime.el'. gnus-mime checks if `gnus-load' has been loaded (as a test for Red Gnus), and if it is absent, it "helpfully" provides the features gnus-sum and gnus-art, thus preventing the loading of the actual files later. And rgnus-0.49 does away with `gnus-load'. - Hari -- Raja R Harinath ------------------------------ harinath@cs.umn.edu "When all else fails, read the instructions." -- Cahn's Axiom "Our policy is, when in doubt, do the right thing." -- Roy L Ash