From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/44073 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Robin S. Socha" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Spam spam spam spam spam Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 11:53:55 -0500 Organization: Trial By Combat Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <87adsqxayl.fsf@enberg.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1017507282 12686 127.0.0.1 (30 Mar 2002 16:54:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 16:54:42 +0000 (UTC) Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 16rM7m-0003IV-00 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 2002 17:54:42 +0100 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 16rM7I-00054Q-00; Sat, 30 Mar 2002 10:54:12 -0600 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Sat, 30 Mar 2002 10:54:21 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (qmailr@sclp3.sclp.com [209.196.61.66]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA19552 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 2002 10:54:09 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: (qmail 1111 invoked by alias); 30 Mar 2002 16:53:56 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 1106 invoked from network); 30 Mar 2002 16:53:55 -0000 Original-Received: from mail1.kens.com (qmailr@209.70.202.39) by gnus.org with SMTP; 30 Mar 2002 16:53:55 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 12881 invoked by uid 1000); 30 Mar 2002 16:53:55 -0000 Original-To: ding@gnus.org X-URL: X-Fnord: +++ath X-WebTV-Stationery: Standard; BGColor=black; TextColor=black X-Message-Flag: Message text blocked: ADULT LANGUAGE/SITUATIONS X-BeenThere: hellfire@templeofhate.com X-MSMail-Priority: High Reply-By: Tue, 24 Jul 1782 19:02:00 +1000 X-Face: #Z}0zkbqU,m`+S)^0R[.23L-o>U{UQ|(DvIqu^Bjw:po_g9;4JnT9tbn;QX$ga/LYS In-Reply-To: <87adsqxayl.fsf@enberg.org> (Henrik Enberg's message of "Sat, 30 Mar 2002 17:43:46 +0100") Original-Lines: 31 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090006 (Oort Gnus v0.06) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley, i386-unknown-openbsd3.0) Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:44073 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:44073 * Henrik Enberg writes: > "Robin S. Socha" writes: >> I don't think that's Gnus' job. Really. This should be done on the >> mailserver. I use TMDA by Jason R. Mastaler. And it just works. > > But TMDA only works with djb's proprietary stuff, doesn't it? http://software.libertine.org/tmda/requirements.html: Currently supported MTAs include qmail, Postfix, Exim, and Sendmail. > And since I started using spamassassin 2 months ago, only 1 spam has > sneaked past it. @400000003ca5ec131bb139cc delivery 559537: deferral: spamc_returned_temporary_failure/ Luvery. And that's the stable version. Add to that a missing "'" in line 65. DJB's software may be proprietary (as opposed to what? the standard RAS tool sendmail?), but at least it works. I'm heavily underimpressed. > And personally I don't much like the whitelist approach, especially if > combined with autobouncing, when it goes from annoying to rude. Henrik, you really want to check your facts first. Do you find anything of this nature in http://software.libertine.org/tmda/features.html? I don't. And Josh Huber's code at http://my.gnus.org/Lisp/1014963375 will certainly get you started as for whitelisting. Ro"Cc:meandsuffer"bin