From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/61328 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Zlatko Calusic Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Face header ugly Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2005 20:25:44 +0100 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1131478294 23551 80.91.229.2 (8 Nov 2005 19:31:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 19:31:34 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ding-owner+m9860@lists.math.uh.edu Tue Nov 08 20:31:26 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EZZ7K-00011b-0B for ding-account@gmane.org; Tue, 08 Nov 2005 20:26:50 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1EZZ7B-0007UA-00; Tue, 08 Nov 2005 13:26:42 -0600 Original-Received: from nas01.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.39]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1EZZ6L-0007U5-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 08 Nov 2005 13:25:49 -0600 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by nas01.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1EZZ6J-0001Kb-HB for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 08 Nov 2005 13:25:49 -0600 Original-Received: from mxout2.iskon.hr ([213.191.128.16]) by quimby.gnus.org with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1EZZ6I-00066u-00 for ; Tue, 08 Nov 2005 20:25:46 +0100 Original-Received: (qmail 16207 invoked from network); 8 Nov 2005 20:25:45 +0100 X-Remote-IP: 213.191.142.123 Original-Received: from unknown (HELO mx.iskon.hr) (213.191.142.123) by mxout2.iskon.hr with SMTP; 8 Nov 2005 20:25:45 +0100 Original-Received: (qmail 20403 invoked from network); 8 Nov 2005 20:25:45 +0100 X-Remote-IP: 213.191.128.21 Original-Received: from oganj.iskon.hr (HELO magla.zg.iskon.hr) (213.191.128.21) by mx.iskon.hr with SMTP; 8 Nov 2005 20:25:45 +0100 Original-Received: (qmail 8641 invoked by uid 804); 8 Nov 2005 20:25:45 +0100 Original-To: ding@gnus.org Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAJ1BMVEUAAABNIxCTRh9lLxXY 0cuva0MHBQScUCmCOxmpWTL///8gEAk8Gw1gSXqgAAACWElEQVQ4y43TQW/TMBQAYHPpGS9CVCKX uRt1BJfVEhi0yxiwqTuh1VrbU7nkEi7rqLxMuzQB1UhcqFQFc0PrhLRxmYamSu6lbJUmmh+F02nE 6UDiHSLFX+JnP/uBo38E+B8o/xX6z3fO7RGr3ICViUpiWJ+B/sRtuJ6WcRb622cAuDqUqmfgYOIC kJvCOAMbSkMinjrZM0BnuA41vGPCmf421g8X5NSwnMKh641oc1nFGj21l8LXxuuOlJgIEU489SuF Y/fSlzLi3JeFM3WRwkv3bqRFR2/rnvfDAK/kyx5jkjE2rzKQL+rxaWybsOHlubyS2ryZ4/hNwJHf k9JnbCc24PtpJ2qiYpHrJFvLxlQHAwHtmIbQKrHaR2Mfh4M2nKjztvJGc7WHT41aDUJbqcG+ck9I b9+En+14GM9t6uO9bO3XU2Al3IbWkyqEedT7VEmhWuLNAC3WkHAY+1wr/4H1gEvZXWQyqUm3m/6x TpEvu71prWSzlcIzHDgSO6yr68v9dyl8wwKh8ByiIkfIXzA2WBAC4xg6SIdjrKovRIB2l/My0hAY +zh6oacihAaSI6dTNu/uLsLEIuRDhN5mL3U1KEBClkoRWpgBIQQRSHD+JQub+krZowAjVJ4BqoVq 6Mw0TjUvirwVIfx+FpYIDYMmEgs3AI5saFG6N9Nq1bYdq2Fs0WxzrpziEMZqckKDigmrOb0kCG3b KnYeVVJYa+QwCgmBscWdB+DiGtYaAFAkNEAaaQAXV2e+qtsVDBIgGvz7SfeOy0fgVTIObuGkVuRx 5N+evoPT3+mFUpdZ4E28AAAAAElFTkSuQmCC User-Agent: Gnus/5.110004 (No Gnus v0.4) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) Precedence: bulk Original-Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:61328 Archived-At: Reiner Steib writes: > On Tue, Nov 08 2005, Zlatko Calusic wrote: > >> As you can see from the headers of this email, my Face header looks >> pretty ugly if you're looking at it on the standard 80-column display. > [...] >> And in the line (insert "\n "), there is definitely a space, not tab >> (checked with C-u C-x =). So, now I'm very confused... >> >> Who or what and why is messing with my face??? :) > > I'd guess that some MTA along the way changes SPC to TAB. > It doesn't happen for other users, see e.g. <87u0eqg9zu.fsf@pdrechsler.de>, > or . > Hey, Reiner, thanks for the detective work. You might be onto something here, because it's obvious other people with similar setup don't get in trouble. But, I'm still not convinced. a) it crossed my mind that MTA could have something to do with it, but I dismissed the idea because it would be very intrusive behaviour of MTA, I think. Also, email from other people with Face header comes unmodified, wouldn't MTA mess with them, too? It is not confirmed, of course, but I'm at the moment not in favour of blaming MTA. Maybe I'll make a simple test this evening to assure (or not) that MTA is to blame. b) Without conducting a thorough test, I went to check a simple thing: arhived sent email (through Gcc:), and it also has tabs instead of spaces. I'm pretty sure such saved articles don't go through MTA. To conclude it all, it seems that something in Gnus munges with already prepared headers, but before the message is sent on. I don't know why other people doesn't have the same problem, maybe they're using different kind of face setup than me?! Or it could be that debian maintainer modified package in some way, that's still pending to be checked. I'm using this snippet to create the face header: (setq message-hidden-headers "^Face:") (add-to-list 'message-required-headers '(Face . (lambda () (gnus-convert-png-to-face "~/.emacs.d/face.png"))) 'append) I'll figure out how to 100% ascertain that MTA is not a problem and report results to the list... Regards, -- Zlatko