From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/76084 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Riley Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: spam splitting : "already done". Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 10:10:52 +0100 Organization: aich tea tea pea dicky riley dot net Message-ID: References: <95lj26nmgf.fsf@news.eternal-september.org> <87d3nh27k3.fsf@gnus.org> <87tygtx0g5.fsf@gnus.org> <87fwsddbnv.fsf@lifelogs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1296205914 8404 80.91.229.12 (28 Jan 2011 09:11:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 09:11:54 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org To: Ted Zlatanov Original-X-From: ding-owner+M24436@lists.math.uh.edu Fri Jan 28 10:11:50 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PikMv-0006Gc-Ry for ding-account@gmane.org; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 10:11:50 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PikMX-0007Yi-5C; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 03:11:25 -0600 Original-Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PikMV-0007YX-GH for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 03:11:23 -0600 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PikMQ-0004RX-QN for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 03:11:23 -0600 Original-Received: from mail-bw0-f44.google.com ([209.85.214.44]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PikMP-0007Ei-As for ding@gnus.org; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 10:11:17 +0100 Original-Received: by bwz12 with SMTP id 12so3192504bwz.17 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 01:11:12 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:date :organization:message-id:references:user-agent:mime-version :content-type; bh=Mw0tS6aEMNsS/Wt/Oxy7+n3/QdSe4rCCsg7939yRByI=; b=HoC2P4169KKneQAXpNbAvA1oZ03fOJ2sNKHv4ZkLnV6ZMPbm8TQpzmn9OZaY4L/T0I PcwDSm4EymL5eBoq0DS7QLvFF22RQH0tmBhyQpi/5znR6/migvrhTjwY0uISjet9YYcZ /PHB/x71F0163LRqnsLwXAija2d0GlrYDotPk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:date:organization:message-id :references:user-agent:mime-version:content-type; b=tuZoMvyiFg6sDt9js0JVH3ApX6zR5H+NQYRcY5BGX+bxij9cg0CV1JQbPBrQAMcEXE yf8tYCzBiMnTcUQ0G4ZUTPl1COmJMBD43H8Q9b7cYdQbsWxf/rbzjF6N+KBYnKBmKCIw ZcrSmRhCOw+W7VXPumUNsSzJvEaqGPoRpWupU= Original-Received: by 10.204.140.208 with SMTP id j16mr2221191bku.151.1296205871860; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 01:11:11 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from localhost ([85.183.18.158]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id v25sm8565666bkt.18.2011.01.28.01.11.09 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 28 Jan 2011 01:11:10 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <87fwsddbnv.fsf@lifelogs.com> (Ted Zlatanov's message of "Thu, 27 Jan 2011 20:06:44 -0600") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/23.2 (gnu/linux) X-Spam-Score: -3.0 (---) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:76084 Archived-At: Ted Zlatanov writes: > On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 17:48:42 -0800 Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: > > LI> Richard Riley writes: >>> Should that say "when nil all unread articles are checked for >>> spam". There may or may not be marking involved. > > LI> I see. Perhaps the spam checking should be running on only the unseen > LI> articles? Ted? > > The spam processors are run on whatever is spam-marked. > > spam-marks are applied when you enter the group according to the basic > rules, using `spam-mark-new-messages-in-spam-group-as-spam'[1] and > `spam-mark-only-unseen-as-spam'. It also matters if the group is a spam > group and if you've customized the group or topic. > > The goal is to mark only articles you haven't seen before as spam. It > sounds like the problem is that you're getting seen but unread articles > marked as spam (and you have spam-mark-only-unseen-as-spam set to t). No. Not marked as spam. *checked* for spam each time. They are not spam. They remain unread (in this use case example). But each time I enter the group they are rechecked. "mark", to me, suggests the records/emails are marked. They are not. I'll try out the debug suggestions as soon as I am off this dinky netbook . Thanks a lot. I be it comes down to some legacy group edit ;