From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/61692 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Sebastian Tennant Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: I want to post to this group using Gnus but Gnus and Gmane hate me! Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 23:41:01 +0000 Organization: Often Lacking Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1137546678 18796 80.91.229.2 (18 Jan 2006 01:11:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 01:11:18 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ding-owner+m10223@lists.math.uh.edu Wed Jan 18 02:11:17 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ez1qy-000051-Ov for ding-account@gmane.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 02:11:13 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1Ez1qp-0005Wg-00; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 19:11:03 -0600 Original-Received: from nas02.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.40]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1Ez0fu-0005Rm-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 17:55:42 -0600 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by nas02.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Ez0SA-0004W6-VV for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 17:41:34 -0600 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2] helo=ciao.gmane.org) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1Ez0S9-0002kc-00 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 00:41:29 +0100 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Ez0S3-0000Gn-Bw for ding@gnus.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 00:41:23 +0100 Original-Received: from bl6-149-56.dsl.telepac.pt ([82.155.149.56]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 00:41:23 +0100 Original-Received: from sebyte by bl6-149-56.dsl.telepac.pt with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 00:41:23 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Lines: 69 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: bl6-149-56.dsl.telepac.pt User-Agent: Debian Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051017) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) Precedence: bulk Original-Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:61692 Archived-At: Below is a news article I just tried to send using Gnus about the problems I too am having with nnimap-request-move-article. However, perhaps the biggest bug of all is that I can't post to gmane.emacs.gnus.general using Gnus!!! I've tried several times, the last time was weeks ago, and now I've had enough! My posts simply dissapear into the ether. Nothing comes back, and nothing arrives. They just vanish. I can post prefectly well to other Gmane newsgroups so I can't begin to imagine what the problem is. Why do Gnus and Gmane hate me? At least Thunderbird is my friend... sdt From: Sebastian Tennant Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: nnimap: nnimap-request-move-article does not delete the original References: <87y81kiaia.fsf@artemis.voegele.dyndns.org> X-Draft-From: ("gmane.emacs.gnus.general" 61686) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 23:09:14 +0000 Message-ID: <874q42o3j9.fsf@smolny.plus.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110004 (No Gnus v0.4) Emacs/21.4 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:UI1bPJXNl4xlq9VR/2RXZYzPfvw= --text follows this line-- Danny Siu wrote: > Andreas Vögele writes: > > Andreas> When moving a message from one IMAP folder to another folder the > Andreas> message is copied but the original message isn't deleted. > > I have been suffering the exact problem. It seems to happen if agent is > enabled (which is the default in Gnus). > I too have been suffering the same for some months now, (as well as a number of other bugs). This was discussed not so long ago and the advice then was to set gnus-fetch-old-headers to nil and disable agent. I did both of these, as well as setting gnus-nov-is-evil to t, emptying my gnus-directory and starting from scratch... and the problem still persists, though strangely, not _all_ the time, which is almost worse.I've been trying to pin down when it does and deosn't fail, but without any success. One thing I have noticed recently is that if I happen to read a new mail in Thunderbird, (usually while I'm cleaning up after Gnus, i.e., deleting articles that haven't been deleted and removing duplicates because I've moved a message twice), then there's no way I can retrieve that mail with Gnus, even if I mark it as unread in Thunderbird. The other bugs I'm experiencing are dropped connections which I suspect affects article marks at times, and wildy exagerated article counts. For instance Gnus tells me I have 4000 odd messages in my INBOX whereas in fact I have twelve! All in all, I'm afraid to say that Gnus' IMAP support is verging on unusable, which saddens me. I wish I knew enough/had the time to help fix things. sdt -- (gnus-version) "No Gnus v0.4" (emacs-version) "GNU Emacs 21.4.1 (i486-pc-linux-gnu) of 2005-10-03 on trouble, modified by Debian"