From: Tibor Simko <tibor.simko@cern.ch>
Subject: Re: Message-ID
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 14:48:56 GMT [thread overview]
Message-ID: <f4ed806gx7t.fsf@sundh01.cern.ch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m3pv629dkh.fsf@deneb.cygnus.stuttgart.netsurf.de>
>>>>> "FW" == Florian Weimer <fw@cygnus.stuttgart.netsurf.de> writes:
FW> You don't need to have a DNS entry for the FQDN, but it's
FW> better if there's an MX record (for mail delivery). [...] Of
FW> course, the FQDN must be from a name space under your control,
FW> otherwise you can't guarantee the uniqness of the message IDs
FW> (which is required for news articles).
What about the following situation. I'm using PPP with dynamic IP.
While offline I'm posting to a local queue which is flushed once the
PPP connection is on.
* stage #1: At the moment of posting, FQDN is junk-name.isp.com
since PPP is off. No DNS entry exists for junk-name.isp.com. It
seems impossible to assure the uniqueness of Message-ID since
someone may very well choose the very same junk-name, post at the
very same time, using the very same uid, MUA, etc, etc.
* stage #2: At the moment of sending the message to ISP, FQDN is
dynamic-name-isp-gives-me.isp.com, which is a DNS-happy name.
Good, but it is too late to create Message-ID since the post has
already been queued before. Since Message-ID attribution already
happened, it does not seem to be a good idea to rewrite it with
the new hostname, for several reasons; e.g. someone could have
used it while I typed my message off-line so we may find the same
uniqueness problem as described above.
Should the Message-ID creation be left completely to the ISP level and
not dealt with locally at all, neither by MUA nor MTA?
Tibor
--
Premature optimization is the root of all evil. --Donald E Knuth
next prev parent reply other threads:[~1999-05-12 14:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
1999-03-22 5:07 Message-ID Harry Putnam
1999-03-22 7:41 ` Message-ID Florian Weimer
1999-05-12 14:48 ` Tibor Simko [this message]
1999-05-12 14:59 ` Message-ID Stainless Steel Rat
1999-05-11 17:26 Message-ID Shigeki Uno
[not found] <19990512022600G.Shigeki Uno@mediawars.ne.jp>
1999-05-11 17:51 ` Message-ID Karl Kleinpaste
1999-05-12 7:52 ` Message-ID Shigeki Uno
[not found] ` <19990512165228L.Shigeki Uno@mediawars.ne.jp>
1999-05-12 13:03 ` Message-ID Stainless Steel Rat
1999-05-12 13:55 ` Message-ID Shigeki Uno
[not found] ` <19990512225538Z.Shigeki Uno@mediawars.ne.jp>
1999-05-12 14:31 ` Message-ID Shigeki Uno
1999-05-12 14:42 ` Message-ID Stainless Steel Rat
1999-05-12 15:55 ` Message-ID Shigeki Uno
1999-05-12 14:50 ` Message-ID Kai.Grossjohann
1999-05-12 16:01 ` Message-ID Shigeki Uno
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