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From: Tibor Simko <tibor.simko@cern.ch>
Subject: Re: Message-ID
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 14:48:56 GMT	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f4ed806gx7t.fsf@sundh01.cern.ch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m3pv629dkh.fsf@deneb.cygnus.stuttgart.netsurf.de>

>>>>> "FW" == Florian Weimer <fw@cygnus.stuttgart.netsurf.de> writes:

    FW> You don't need to have a DNS entry for the FQDN, but it's
    FW> better if there's an MX record (for mail delivery).  [...] Of
    FW> course, the FQDN must be from a name space under your control,
    FW> otherwise you can't guarantee the uniqness of the message IDs
    FW> (which is required for news articles).

What about the following situation.  I'm using PPP with dynamic IP.
While offline I'm posting to a local queue which is flushed once the
PPP connection is on.

  * stage #1: At the moment of posting, FQDN is junk-name.isp.com
    since PPP is off.  No DNS entry exists for junk-name.isp.com.  It
    seems impossible to assure the uniqueness of Message-ID since
    someone may very well choose the very same junk-name, post at the
    very same time, using the very same uid, MUA, etc, etc.

  * stage #2: At the moment of sending the message to ISP, FQDN is
    dynamic-name-isp-gives-me.isp.com, which is a DNS-happy name.
    Good, but it is too late to create Message-ID since the post has
    already been queued before.  Since Message-ID attribution already
    happened, it does not seem to be a good idea to rewrite it with
    the new hostname, for several reasons; e.g. someone could have
    used it while I typed my message off-line so we may find the same
    uniqueness problem as described above.

Should the Message-ID creation be left completely to the ISP level and
not dealt with locally at all, neither by MUA nor MTA?

Tibor
-- 
Premature optimization is the root of all evil.  --Donald E Knuth


  reply	other threads:[~1999-05-12 14:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1999-03-22  5:07 Message-ID Harry Putnam
1999-03-22  7:41 ` Message-ID Florian Weimer
1999-05-12 14:48   ` Tibor Simko [this message]
1999-05-12 14:59     ` Message-ID Stainless Steel Rat
1999-05-11 17:26 Message-ID Shigeki Uno
     [not found] <19990512022600G.Shigeki Uno@mediawars.ne.jp>
1999-05-11 17:51 ` Message-ID Karl Kleinpaste
1999-05-12  7:52   ` Message-ID Shigeki Uno
     [not found]   ` <19990512165228L.Shigeki Uno@mediawars.ne.jp>
1999-05-12 13:03     ` Message-ID Stainless Steel Rat
1999-05-12 13:55       ` Message-ID Shigeki Uno
     [not found]       ` <19990512225538Z.Shigeki Uno@mediawars.ne.jp>
1999-05-12 14:31         ` Message-ID Shigeki Uno
1999-05-12 14:42         ` Message-ID Stainless Steel Rat
1999-05-12 15:55           ` Message-ID Shigeki Uno
1999-05-12 14:50         ` Message-ID Kai.Grossjohann
1999-05-12 16:01           ` Message-ID Shigeki Uno

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