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From: Richard Riley <rileyrg@googlemail.com>
To: ding@gnus.org
Subject: Re: shr - span elements with title attribute, tooltip?
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 15:39:58 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f6d3l820cx.fsf@news.eternal-september.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87tyekda4e.fsf@lifelogs.com> (Ted Zlatanov's message of "Wed, 30 Mar 2011 08:13:37 -0500")

Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:

> On Tue, 29 Mar 2011 23:31:08 +0200 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> wrote: 
>
> LMI> So I looked at the HTML.  It only consisted of a bunch of <div>s, on
> LMI> this form:
>
> LMI> <div style="position:absolute; top:401; left:662; width:69; height:18;text-align: right; clip:rect(0 69 18 0)"><B>1311,00 </B></div>
>
> LMI> (I think that's the total amount.)
>
> LMI> I guess now we all understand why using <table> is so horrible.
>
> How does the usage of <div> elements predicate your statement?  Or is my
> irony meter broken again?
>
> Ted
>

Just a sidenote/history tale..

Nightmare times. What was "broken" was the reality level of many CSS
advocates a couple of years ago who somewhat smugly informed everyone to
use CSS rather than tables for "simple" layouts and point blankly
refused any help to those trying to use tables for cross browser layout
"working solutions". If I had a penny for everytime I saw someone new to
CSS asking in #css how to do something "elementary" or common like a 3
columned layout or a horizontal toolbar that works cross browser in CSS
and told to "read the docs" I would be a billionaire. Most gave up and
went back to tables ;) Google holds the myriad of "solutions" many of
which dont work. Tableless CSS was all well and good if you're paid by
the hour I dare say and have the patience to work out the idiosyncrasies
of 9 different browsers and their adherence to CSS standards over the
past years. In short it was a nightmare and tables were used on many
many many of the top web sites until only very recently. Thank God for
the decline in usage of the IE 6 browser and the better adherence to CSS
standards. That said IE 7 still has nasties with regard to layout
triggering.


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  reply	other threads:[~2011-03-30 13:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-03-27  7:54 Adam Sjøgren
2011-03-27  8:32 ` [PATCH] Show title attribute of span elements as mouse over text Adam Sjøgren
2011-03-28 18:58 ` shr - span elements with title attribute, tooltip? Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-28 19:17   ` Adam Sjøgren
2011-03-28 19:33     ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-28 19:59       ` Adam Sjøgren
2011-03-28 20:14         ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-28 20:34           ` Adam Sjøgren
2011-03-28 21:02             ` Adam Sjøgren
2011-03-28 21:07             ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-29 17:52   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-03-29 18:07     ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-29 18:23       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-03-29 18:46         ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-29 19:04           ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-03-29 19:16             ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-29 19:35               ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-03-29 19:50                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-29 20:15                   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-03-29 21:31                     ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-03-30  6:05                       ` Adam Sjøgren
2011-03-30 13:13                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-30 13:39                         ` Richard Riley [this message]
2011-03-30 19:02                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-04-03 12:10                             ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-03-29 21:15             ` Adam Sjøgren
2011-03-29 21:09     ` Adam Sjøgren
2011-03-30  0:58     ` Kevin Ryde

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