From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/5200 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: holder@convex.com (Shane Holder) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: how do you subscribe to new groups if I don't save-killed Date: 21 Feb 1996 14:42:42 -0600 Message-ID: References: <199602211924.OAA01325@eiffel.lcs.mit.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035145840 32112 80.91.224.250 (20 Oct 2002 20:30:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 20:30:40 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@ifi.uio.no Return-Path: ding-request@ifi.uio.no Original-Received: from biggulp.callamer.com (root@biggulp.callamer.com [199.74.141.2]) by deanna.miranova.com (8.7.3/8.6.9) with SMTP id NAA16917 for ; Wed, 21 Feb 1996 13:37:26 -0800 Original-Received: from ifi.uio.no (0@ifi.uio.no [129.240.64.2]) by biggulp.callamer.com (8.6.12/8.6.9-callamer-rdw080995) with ESMTP id NAA10711 for ; Wed, 21 Feb 1996 13:37:45 -0800 Original-Received: from mordor.convex.com (mordor.convex.com [130.168.69.61]) by ifi.uio.no with ESMTP (8.6.11/ifi2.4) id for ; Wed, 21 Feb 1996 21:41:21 +0100 Original-Received: (from holder@localhost) by mordor.convex.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) id OAA03840; Wed, 21 Feb 1996 14:42:45 -0600 Original-To: patl@lcs.mit.edu In-Reply-To: "Patrick J. LoPresti"'s message of Wed, 21 Feb 1996 14:24:02 -0500 Original-Lines: 60 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:5200 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:5200 >>>>> ""Patrick" == "Patrick J LoPresti" writes: >>>>> "larsi" == Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen writes: larsi> gsstark@MIT.EDU (Greg Stark) writes: >>> I'm not sure I understand what's going here, i think that if I >>> have have: gnus-save-killed-list nil gnus-check-new-newsgroups >>> 'ask-server >>> then Gnus doesn't know about any killed groups so when i use `j' >>> or `U' it completes to just the groups I am subscribed to or are >>> zombie groups. I'm not sure the value of check-new-newsgroups is >>> relevant, but I think save-killed-list is. larsi> Well, the "solution" is to set `gnus-read-active-file' to t. larsi> This will make startup slower, though. larsi> One way or another, Gnus has to know what groups are larsi> available. Either it must save the list of killed groups, or larsi> it must read the active file if you want to be able to do this larsi> sort of thing. "Patrick> Perhaps there should be a way to ask Gnus to read the active file "Patrick> explicitly? The only time I need the active file read is when "Patrick> subscribing to new groups, which isn't very often. Maybe I don't understand what y'all are talking about, but here goes anyway. I've got gnus-check-new-newsgroups set to 'ask-server, gnus-save-killed-list to nil, and gnus-read-active-file to nil. Gnus will ask the nntp server for new newsgroups (new groups are those that have been created on your server between a specified time period not new to your .newsrc) , and add those groups to the zombie list. You can get the zombie by using `A z' this will get you new newsgroups. You can get the list of all killed groups by using `C-u A k', this will force gnus to read the active file. I think the server needs to support the newgroups command for the newgroups stuff to work. Check by the following telnet nntp help You should see a command like newgroups yymmdd hhmmss ["GMT"] [] Anyhow, that's how I do it, if I've totally missed the point, sorry. Shane -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Shane Holder | e-mail: holder@convex.com Convex Computer Corp | phone: (214)497-4182 3000 Waterview | Ignorance isn't so bad, as long as it's not Richardson, TX 75083 | accompanied by stupidity.