From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/66337 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Miles Bader" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Emacs unicode merge changes to Gnus Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 09:29:12 +0900 Message-ID: References: <61r6fqbyuv.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <871w7fvymc.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <87tzk9zxsq.fsf@catnip.gol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1203467387 3248 80.91.229.12 (20 Feb 2008 00:29:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 00:29:47 +0000 (UTC) To: "Reiner Steib" , "Miles Bader" , ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M14828@lists.math.uh.edu Wed Feb 20 01:30:11 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JRcqh-0007OY-36 for ding-account@gmane.org; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 01:30:11 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1JRcpu-00066P-LD; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 18:29:22 -0600 Original-Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1JRcps-00066A-U7 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 18:29:20 -0600 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1JRcpm-0006YB-Nf for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 18:29:20 -0600 Original-Received: from an-out-0708.google.com ([209.85.132.251]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1JRcpr-0005wz-00 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 01:29:19 +0100 Original-Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c8so840930ana.45 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 16:29:12 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; bh=BTyefFSp3d3t3nqNTHE9nJqKSznqKFMY/obARfyObzY=; b=xJX/2+WwjZjt4W640QEs3e498pllNAwoTMYHQVGC+hcffDkRa1974v4mettSDc2oz/nlvQj7IqF+asG0E9s2NmiN2hbGd9gi4necZcZBAyYeSJDIZ54T1MYPNMIH2oaR3lbnmBucQ8Vd43E4KV7+M3un9bCae05HH9abISrmzMY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=cWCgaTBrg0LF6QVtF/WICZ6k1nd20h2WOJrn3eEVD0uOrQvN3SRnuTxy8oSOa9bwfV1kqy4bCem0GGxsTbCofJIqjZ1tUhvA9oaHd0VX/jKxeTKof4zGqBqqyGu7mWO1e1B1ny1OS7j1iYpPCqeEt1RVcbErBpY81gtnv58Gaa4= Original-Received: by 10.100.212.13 with SMTP id k13mr15560254ang.95.1203467352423; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 16:29:12 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.101.70.4 with HTTP; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 16:29:12 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: Content-Disposition: inline X-Google-Sender-Auth: c13bc3fe8b303192 X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:66337 Archived-At: On Feb 16, 2008 9:39 AM, Reiner Steib wrote: > > 1) Should gnus write the cookie? (obviously yes, I think) > > > > 2) Should Gnus stop forcing the coding system when it reads the file? > > (i.e., should Gnus let coding: do its job) > > > > 3) Should Gnus switch to utf-8-emacs as the default coding system for > > writing files? > > Sounds reasonable. Please apply (1) and (2). ... However I now notice that Gnus has used "utf-8-emacs" by default for a _long_ time, if it's supported!! Here's the ChangeLog entry: 2003-04-24 Dave Love * mm-util.el (mm-make-temp-file, mm-insert-byte): New. (mm-auto-save-coding-system): Consider utf-8-emacs. That means anybody who's been running the unicode branch (a lot of people), or the trunk (since the branch was merged) has had their Gnus files encoding using utf-8-emacs for quite a while... So I'm not sure what to do, really... It seems like a step backward (and perhaps dangerous) to explicitly change that to emacs-mule. Thanks, -Miles -- Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball.