From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/78087 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Riley Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: agent/fetch only articles from certain levels Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 16:23:02 +0100 Organization: aich tea tea pea dicky riley dot net Message-ID: References: <87zkokei6u.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <3waagj1nen.fsf@news.eternal-september.org> <87lj03v23l.fsf@pinto.chemeng.ucl.ac.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1301066571 31201 80.91.229.12 (25 Mar 2011 15:22:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 15:22:51 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M26398@lists.math.uh.edu Fri Mar 25 16:22:45 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q38qZ-0002Th-5Q for ding-account@gmane.org; Fri, 25 Mar 2011 16:22:43 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Q38qI-00036a-GH; Fri, 25 Mar 2011 10:22:26 -0500 Original-Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Q38qH-00036P-8X for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Fri, 25 Mar 2011 10:22:25 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Q38qG-00029i-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Fri, 25 Mar 2011 10:22:24 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-fx0-f44.google.com ([209.85.161.44]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Q38qE-0005IA-Qu for ding@gnus.org; Fri, 25 Mar 2011 16:22:22 +0100 Original-Received: by fxm15 with SMTP id 15so1729071fxm.17 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2011 08:22:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:date:organization :message-id:references:user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=9I9e1l/7YjZ7jEv+4d3fUkLpma0yuZ6LoiEgr5yvUFA=; b=d4M9jA0t7Ylv6DIg66txJoVs/07q6bO2ih4rUW/CA/ikz4VIKDBup6x732Mplh4xCZ lEHJlT/zruS5YEjUxB5nABC2Co2+3tMmoRB4koMiHSL2snilR3DdZtDgA4MiYIFAa6kj q+0uv4bHZMu7i1WjyJ1/Dx5hwLJycLeQwXeFM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:in-reply-to:date:organization:message-id:references :user-agent:mime-version:content-type; b=LWVB5ys7nClIvwpHOH1IMLt5vBPMbkaditM0VSOCt9thE3JjyRkgh5+Ou2zdumDHgs 401vTJVKX/hIIJeOGoJjvja+nzrrx7tAAa+nCRMYexO2tNJRTfWpn82pjZfBxFRA9Zjl j9Zc3MpbRi7pV+JsFVoGsqXAZVnBVppOzqyFk= Original-Received: by 10.223.58.72 with SMTP id f8mr989495fah.137.1301066537432; Fri, 25 Mar 2011 08:22:17 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from asus1015pem (109.Red-83-40-108.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net [83.40.108.109]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e23sm467734faa.18.2011.03.25.08.22.15 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 25 Mar 2011 08:22:16 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from shamrock by asus1015pem with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Q38qx-000446-Fn for ding@gnus.org; Fri, 25 Mar 2011 16:23:07 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Richard Riley's message of "Fri, 25 Mar 2011 16:04:03 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110015 (No Gnus v0.15) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Spam-Score: -3.0 (---) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:78087 Archived-At: Richard Riley writes: > That works yes! Wow. Thanks! But "foreign group"? Why are they foreign > groups? They are groups attached to nntp servers defined in select > methods. Ye gods its complicated ;) ... > I spoke too soon. Yes this "activates" the groups. But it also means they now, when plugged, fetch using the default "g" rather than when I specifically WANT these less important groups using something C-u 5 g. Theres some kind of functionality overlap between plugged, activated and subscribed which seems to defeatt my use case. To reiterate I have some "higher level" levels for things like gaming nntp group for example. Lets say level 5. Imap and some others are at level 3. I set gnus-activate-level to 3. When "plugged" hitting "g" will now only fetch for level and below (its back to front IMO since more important groups have lower levels).This is great. If I want the advocacy wars etc in pc.gaming or whatever I hit C-u 5 g. Gnus then fetches this for me. But the important and correct thing is that it doesnt fetch the less important stuff using default "g". All fine. The problem however here is that when starting gnus *unplugged* these level 5 groups do not "activate" ie show the articles counts etc, even though its local. They *are* visible however since they are subscribed. IMO they should activate when unplugged. If I set the gnus-activate-foreign-newsgroups to 3 to activate them in unplugged by default then default "g" also fetches them. This is not desired behaviour when really roaming. Yes, when unplugged I *can* C-u 5 g to activate them, if their levels are 5, but this step should be unnecessary. I think this makes sense...