Burrowing

Burrowing

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

By golly!  I think I've got it now!

1) telnet to host a
2) change escape character
3) telnet from host a to nntp server b
4) issue ^]
5) "mode character"

Presto!  Couldn't be easier.

(This is that old "I can't reach that nntp server from this account
but I can reach it from that account" chestnut.  It might actually
work in Gnus 5.2.33.)

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
  larsi@ifi.uio.no * Lars Ingebrigtsen

Re: Burrowing

[Thor Kristoffersen]

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

| By golly!  I think I've got it now!
| 
| 1) telnet to host a
| 2) change escape character
| 3) telnet from host a to nntp server b
| 4) issue ^]
| 5) "mode character"
| 
| Presto!  Couldn't be easier.

Great!  But I hope you will make this a new function
(`nntp-open-telnet' for example), because the old `nntp-open-rlogin'
works fine if you can modify the .rhosts file.  If you use telnet it
will always ask for a password, AFAIK.


Thor
-- 
Thor Kristoffersen - thor@unik.no - http://www.unik.no/~thor/

Re: Burrowing

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Thor Kristoffersen <thor@unik.no> writes:

> Great!  But I hope you will make this a new function
> (`nntp-open-telnet' for example), because the old `nntp-open-rlogin'
> works fine if you can modify the .rhosts file.

Yup.  That's indeed what I'll be calling the function.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
  larsi@ifi.uio.no * Lars Ingebrigtsen

Re: Burrowing

[Mark Eichin]

> works fine if you can modify the .rhosts file.  If you use telnet it
> will always ask for a password, AFAIK.

I'm likely to try these using Kerberos telnet/rlogin, neither of which
ask for passwords... so It Would Be Nice If the password prompt
checking code was optional (or maybe just only triggered if it *saw* a
password prompt...)

I thought "telnet -a" would check .rhosts on some systems as well, not
sure though. It may just save you from typing a password.

Re: Burrowing

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Mark Eichin <eichin@cygnus.com> writes:

> I'm likely to try these using Kerberos telnet/rlogin, neither of which
> ask for passwords... so It Would Be Nice If the password prompt
> checking code was optional (or maybe just only triggered if it *saw* a
> password prompt...)

For `nntp-open-telnet' the password thing is required.  If you're
using Kerberos, you should be able to use `nntp-open-rlogin', which
uses rsh.  (And should be called `nntp-open-rsh', I guess.)

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
  larsi@ifi.uio.no * Lars Ingebrigtsen

Re: Burrowing

[Edward J. Sabol]

Excerpts from mail: (05-Jul-96) Re: Burrowing by Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
> Mark Eichin <eichin@cygnus.com> writes:
>> I'm likely to try these using Kerberos telnet/rlogin, neither of which ask
>> for passwords... so It Would Be Nice If the password prompt checking code
>> was optional (or maybe just only triggered if it *saw* a password
>> prompt...)
>
> For `nntp-open-telnet' the password thing is required. If you're using
> Kerberos, you should be able to use `nntp-open-rlogin', which uses rsh.
> (And should be called `nntp-open-rsh', I guess.)

I don't know about other environments, but in the Kerberos/AFS environments
I'm familiar with, rsh doesn't work, rlogin is frowned upon (especially since
the release of the encrypted, auto-authenticated version of telnet), and the
use of a ~/.rhosts files is completely disabled. And even if that weren't the
case, encrypted, auto-authenticated telnet streams are a *lot* sexier than
rlogin/rsh on any day of the week. If it wouldn't be too difficult, please
add a no-password-necessary option to `nntp-open-telnet' (or make a separate
function `nntp-open-telnet-no-password'?).

Thanks,
Ed

Re: Burrowing

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

"Edward J. Sabol" <sabol@thuban.gsfc.nasa.gov> writes:

> If it wouldn't be too difficult, please add a no-password-necessary
> option to `nntp-open-telnet' (or make a separate function
> `nntp-open-telnet-no-password'?).

I've now added this to the Red Gnus todo list.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
  larsi@ifi.uio.no * Lars Ingebrigtsen