From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/52554 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lloyd Zusman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Completely removing an article from drafts? Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 12:27:38 -0400 Organization: FreeBSD/Linux Hippopotamus Preserve Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <8665og1mu5.fsf@jochen.rijnh.nl> <7k8w4911.fsf@asfast.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1052756958 26052 80.91.224.249 (12 May 2003 16:29:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 16:29:18 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ding-owner+M1098@lists.math.uh.edu Mon May 12 18:29:16 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19FG88-0006WF-00 for ; Mon, 12 May 2003 18:26:24 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 19FG9W-00033d-00; Mon, 12 May 2003 11:27:50 -0500 Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com ([64.157.176.121]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 19FG9O-00033X-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Mon, 12 May 2003 11:27:42 -0500 Original-Received: (qmail 58283 invoked by alias); 12 May 2003 16:27:42 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 58278 invoked from network); 12 May 2003 16:27:42 -0000 Original-Received: from unknown (HELO asfast.net) (eeq8kn@216.182.10.250) by sclp3.sclp.com with SMTP; 12 May 2003 16:27:42 -0000 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (uid 0) by asfast.net with local; Mon, 12 May 2003 12:27:38 -0400 Original-To: ding@gnus.org X-Face: "!ga1s|?LNLE3MeeeEYs(%LIl9q[xV9!j4#xf4!**BFW_ihlOb;:Slb>)vy>CJM (Lloyd Zusman's message of "Mon, 12 May 2003 08:57:46 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) Emacs/21.3 (berkeley-unix) Precedence: bulk Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:52554 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:52554 This message was delayed by the mailing-list server and posted now. Therefore, the items mentioned here have already been discussed, and are no longer relevant. Lloyd Zusman writes: > Karl Kleinpaste writes: > >> Lloyd Zusman writes: >>> Since `gnus-summary-delete-article' does actual expiry, I think >>> that it would be more clear if "expire" appeared in the function name. >> >> No, I don't agree. "Expiry" in Gnus is generally a time-based >> concept; an article expires after a timeout passes, causing deletion. >> >> gnus-summary-delete-article simply deletes, right now. It does not >> expire anything; it annihilates something on the spot. For "delete," >> dictionary.reference.com says "To remove by striking out or >> canceling", and that's what the function does. >> >> I think it is named exactly right. > > In addition to what I wrote in my previous message, I want to add that > `gnus-summary-delete-article' does _not_ delete an article using the > dictionary definition of "delete" that you mention above. Check the > documentation and the source code. What that function actually does is > to _expire_ the article, in the exact manner that Gnus defines _expire_. > > What `gnus-summary-delete-article' actually does is to apply > `nnimap-expiry-function' to the article. If `nnimap-expiry-function' is > set to 'delete, then `gnus-summary-delete-article' will indeed do a > deletion as the expiry process that it performs. However, if that > variable contains a function symbol, that function is invoked to perform > the expiry. > > Therefore, `gnus-summary-delete-article' is indeed a misnomer for this > function, and `gnus-summary-expire-article' is the perfectly precise > name for what this function actually does. > > -- > Lloyd Zusman > ljz@asfast.com -- Lloyd Zusman ljz@asfast.com