From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/27631 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Jody M. Klymak" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: What now? (was: Forwarding Mail Messages) Date: 03 Dec 1999 11:12:36 -0800 Organization: APL/School of Oceanography, UW Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <84bt8kpxba.fsf@snoopy.apana.org.au> <7s4se2uqao.fsf@brutus.mts.jhu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035164623 25555 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 01:43:43 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 01:43:43 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from bart.math.uh.edu (bart.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.48]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA17916 for ; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 14:13:37 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by bart.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAB09974; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 13:13:11 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Fri, 03 Dec 1999 13:13:20 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (root@sclp3.sclp.com [204.252.123.139]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA29690 for ; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 13:13:09 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from kraken.apl.washington.edu (kraken76.apl.washington.edu [128.95.76.25]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA17900 for ; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 14:12:42 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from GALIANO (galiano.apl.washington.edu [128.95.96.142]) by kraken.apl.washington.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA01800 for ; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 11:12:37 -0800 (PST) Original-To: ding@gnus.org X-Attribution: JMK X-Face: "<0QfOpaV_W5z+[E9oe02A4UO.(a>zMQP0L@EUnqJoL.LnZRJ:zf9h5!I\qA$S3NHkKc*hd ;N0osYNwiO@_^H"[!{:9L*4-DqE5=xGGMz&u+4wx,t{/v.4 ~r?&m~W>u8zQq,va5}2im<1Ayy:/>sC+Fr30K!gliWS1r/)Q.5!|vN In-Reply-To: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen's message of "02 Dec 1999 02:19:01 +0100" Original-Lines: 52 User-Agent: Gnus/5.070099 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.99) Emacs/20.4 Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:27631 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:27631 >>>>> "LMI" == Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen writes: LMI> But is there anything major, like MIME, left to implement. LMI> Is Gnus (don't say it!) getting feature-complete? Hi all, Just to reiterate my comments of the other day. I did some poking around and realized that there are calendar standards and vcard standards out there. Gnus already has pretty nice integration with BBDB, but it doesn't parse vcard information. Now before anyone says that vcards are silly, you should look at their specification (http://www.imc.org/pdi/) - I don't think its necessarily a bad idea to encode all the information that I give in my sig below so that it can be automatically sucked into someones BBDB if they are so inclined. There is also an accepted Vcalendar standard (again at http://www.imc.org/pdi/) that allows people to send meeting information in a standard form. It might be very nice to do this - not only would a lot of gnus-users stuck in corporate environments be able to ditch Outlook, but it may also help propogate these useful ways of marking up our emails. The trend is towards more information content in messages - if there are a few standard templates we can parse like vcard and vcalendar then so much the better. Why do all this in gnus, a news and mail program? Becuase now adays, the majority of meetings get scheduled by email, and the majority of contacts get made that way as well. It makes sense to integrate the Personl Information Manager and the mail reader as much as possible - ythe email client is the glue that holds everything together. Gnus can do it - it understands attachements. There is already a vcard parser (but no way to dump it into BBDB yet), and I'm sure its not too difficult to write a vcalendar parser. So no, I'd not say gnus is "feature-complete" yet. There are lots of wonderful things going on out there that aren't being tapped into yet. Anyways, just some thoughts. I may start poking into these things, but I'm writing my dissertation so I don't have a lot of time. I'm also not very lisp-litterate. Cheers, Jody -- Jody Klymak APL/School of Oceanography, Doctoral Candidate University of Washington mailto:jklymak@apl.washington.edu (206)-685-9080 http://www.ocean.washington.edu/people/grads/jklymak/