From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/15559 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Justin Sheehy Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Inserting attribution at a better point Date: 08 Jul 1998 18:20:22 -0400 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035154569 22780 80.91.224.250 (20 Oct 2002 22:56:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 22:56:09 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from gwyn.tux.org (gwyn.tux.org [207.96.122.8]) by altair.xemacs.org (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id PAA22306 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 15:27:05 -0700 Original-Received: from gizmo.hpc.uh.edu (gizmo.hpc.uh.edu [129.7.102.31]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA05831 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 18:24:13 -0400 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (sina.hpc.uh.edu [129.7.3.5]) by gizmo.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAT01893; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 16:57:52 -0500 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Wed, 08 Jul 1998 17:21:14 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (root@sclp3.sclp.com [209.195.19.139]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA09576 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 17:20:52 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from linus.mitre.org (linus.mitre.org [129.83.10.1]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA27558 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 18:20:25 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from caffeine.mitre.org (caffeine [129.83.10.136]) by linus.mitre.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA00360 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 18:20:24 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: (from justin@localhost) by caffeine.mitre.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id SAA23698; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 18:20:22 -0400 (EDT) Original-To: ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: Karl Kleinpaste's message of "08 Jul 1998 14:01:40 -0400" Original-Lines: 47 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.23/Emacs 20.2 Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:15559 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:15559 Karl Kleinpaste writes: > ...versus a re-placement of the 1st attribution, farther into the > article, thus... > ________________ > > In article <456@foo.bar>, jane@doe.org writes: > >> Jane's text goes here. > > In article <123@foo.bar>, joe@schmo.net writes: > > Joe's text goes here, now closely connected to his attribution. This works for a trivial example like this, but would be of little help in the common case of multiple attribution: The outermost layer of attribution (joe) is the one that you are actually replying to, and the messages that they replied to (jane's) are included for context. If one places their response directly after the bit that is being responded to, text ordering is important. People's words are interspersed for a reason. There are some people that seem to think that it is better to simply include an entire message in one block and to place one's response above or below the entire original. Your approach might be useful for these people, but only because these people's approach is weaker than the more conventional way of structuring message responses. > (I observe that I also take out the quotation `> ' from in front of > Jane's attribution line. I don't like that part at all. It confuses things, as that line was part of joe's message and thus is quoted by you. Even if you do rearrange the order of things, I would suggest not removing any quotation markers. In general, I don't think that this would be very useful at all. -- Justin Sheehy In a cloud bones of steel.