From: "Jason R. Mastaler" <jason-dated-1005503980.ed5948@mastaler.com>
Subject: Re: SPAM? What SPAM? (was: thoughts on spam)
Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2001 11:39:39 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <hhg07v3dhw.fsf@nightshade.la.mastaler.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m1elnfen9e.fsf@reader.newsguy.com> (Harry Putnam's message of "Sat, 03 Nov 2001 10:13:17 -0800")
Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com> writes:
> Doesn't support sendmail.... egad. Only supports kook fringe mta's.
TMDA currently supports the most widely used opensource/unix MTAs
other than Sendmail (qmail, Postfix, and Exim). There is a chance
that Sendmail will be supported in the future, but it will really be
some sort of hack. Sendmail makes things very difficult for me.
TMDA (which is invoked from .forward/.qmail) needs full access to the
message envelope to operate (envelope recipient address, envelope
sender address, etc.). Believe it or not, Sendmail has thrown away
the entire envelope by the time it reaches .forward.
The requirements for e-mail applications today are different than they
were a decade ago, but Sendmail has made little effort to keep up. In
my book, Sendmail wins the "pioneer" award for being the first to
market, but that is no reason to continue using it today when there
are several *superior* alternatives available.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2001-11-03 18:39 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 147+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2001-10-18 5:11 Generating Mail-Followup-To: headers Matt Armstrong
2001-10-18 5:43 ` Paul Jarc
2001-10-18 16:08 ` Matt Armstrong
2001-10-18 16:19 ` Kai Großjohann
2001-10-18 16:41 ` Paul Jarc
2001-10-18 18:17 ` Kai Großjohann
2001-10-18 23:19 ` Maciej Matysiak
2001-10-19 9:03 ` Kai Großjohann
2001-11-01 21:54 ` Maciej Matysiak
2001-11-01 22:10 ` Matt Armstrong
2001-11-02 1:03 ` Samuel Padgett
2001-11-07 13:39 ` Maciej Matysiak
2001-11-07 13:30 ` Maciej Matysiak
2001-11-07 14:26 ` Per Abrahamsen
2001-11-07 14:31 ` Didier Verna
2001-11-07 14:40 ` Per Abrahamsen
2001-11-07 14:44 ` Josh Huber
2001-11-07 15:36 ` Kai Großjohann
2001-11-07 16:08 ` Matt Armstrong
2001-11-07 17:03 ` Kai Großjohann
2001-11-07 19:59 ` Josh Huber
2001-11-02 8:31 ` Kai Großjohann
2001-11-02 16:09 ` Matt Armstrong
2001-11-02 16:52 ` OT: make bbdb shut up about different email addresses? Josh Huber
2001-11-02 17:37 ` Matt Armstrong
2001-11-02 17:48 ` Jason R. Mastaler
2001-11-02 19:44 ` Matt Armstrong
2001-11-02 19:58 ` Paul Jarc
2001-11-02 18:35 ` Matt Armstrong
2001-11-02 22:27 ` Jack Twilley
2001-11-02 23:54 ` Matt Armstrong
2001-11-03 5:16 ` thoughts on spam Bill White
2001-11-03 6:33 ` Jason R. Mastaler
2001-11-03 7:29 ` SPAM? What SPAM? (was: thoughts on spam) Robin S. Socha
2001-11-03 18:13 ` Harry Putnam
2001-11-03 18:39 ` Jason R. Mastaler [this message]
2001-11-03 19:04 ` Karl Kleinpaste
2001-11-03 19:12 ` Jason R. Mastaler
2001-11-03 19:21 ` Harry Putnam
2001-11-03 22:52 ` Karl Kleinpaste
2001-11-03 14:48 ` thoughts on spam Bill White
2001-11-03 15:12 ` Stainless Steel Rat
2001-11-03 18:24 ` Jason R. Mastaler
2001-11-04 6:01 ` Stainless Steel Rat
2001-11-04 7:00 ` Jason R. Mastaler
2001-11-04 8:40 ` Stainless Steel Rat
2001-11-05 20:04 ` Jason R. Mastaler
2001-11-05 20:38 ` Stainless Steel Rat
2001-11-05 23:06 ` Jason R. Mastaler
2001-11-06 1:52 ` Stainless Steel Rat
2001-11-06 2:07 ` Stainless Steel Rat
2001-11-06 2:43 ` Paul Jarc
2001-11-06 3:05 ` Harry Putnam
2001-11-06 3:26 ` Stainless Steel Rat
2001-11-05 22:01 ` Chris Shenton
2001-11-05 22:54 ` Matt Armstrong
2001-11-03 18:26 ` Robin S. Socha
2001-11-03 18:42 ` Jason R. Mastaler
2001-11-03 18:56 ` Fabien Penso
2001-11-03 19:24 ` Robin S. Socha
2001-11-04 5:54 ` Stainless Steel Rat
2001-11-04 7:07 ` Jason R. Mastaler
2001-11-04 9:04 ` Stainless Steel Rat
2001-11-04 17:57 ` Matt Armstrong
2001-11-04 20:46 ` Stainless Steel Rat
2001-11-05 3:49 ` Paul Jarc
2001-11-05 4:34 ` Stainless Steel Rat
2001-11-05 5:27 ` Harry Putnam
2001-11-05 15:59 ` Matt Armstrong
2001-11-05 16:57 ` Stainless Steel Rat
2001-11-05 17:45 ` [OT] " Fabien Penso
2001-11-05 19:25 ` Stainless Steel Rat
2001-11-05 19:33 ` Harry Putnam
2001-11-05 19:58 ` Stainless Steel Rat
2001-11-05 20:01 ` Karl Kleinpaste
2001-11-05 20:35 ` Matt Armstrong
2001-11-06 6:51 ` Harry Putnam
2001-11-06 16:55 ` Matt Armstrong
2001-11-06 18:51 ` Harry Putnam
2001-11-06 19:19 ` Lost Mail (was thoughts on spam) Stainless Steel Rat
2001-11-06 20:02 ` thoughts on spam Matt Armstrong
2001-11-06 20:49 ` Harry Putnam
2001-11-06 19:52 ` Steinar Bang
2001-11-04 17:33 ` François Pinard
2001-11-04 17:23 ` François Pinard
2001-11-03 20:32 ` Russ Allbery
2001-11-03 18:15 ` Harry Putnam
2001-11-04 4:08 ` Bill White
2001-11-04 4:04 ` Harry Putnam
2001-11-04 4:07 ` Harry Putnam
2001-11-04 7:11 ` Bill White
2001-11-04 7:10 ` Jason R. Mastaler
2001-11-04 13:47 ` Harry Putnam
2001-11-04 17:45 ` bbdb arcana Bill White
2001-11-07 13:43 ` Generating Mail-Followup-To: headers Maciej Matysiak
2001-10-19 4:48 ` Per Abrahamsen
2001-10-19 13:46 ` Josh Huber
2001-10-19 14:08 ` Per Abrahamsen
2001-10-19 15:49 ` Paul Jarc
2001-10-19 15:29 ` Matt Armstrong
2001-10-19 16:19 ` Paul Jarc
2001-10-19 19:29 ` Matt Armstrong
2001-10-19 19:44 ` Josh Huber
2001-10-19 20:59 ` Kai Großjohann
2001-10-19 15:42 ` Paul Jarc
2001-10-19 16:16 ` Per Abrahamsen
2001-10-19 16:25 ` Paul Jarc
2001-10-19 17:01 ` Josh Huber
2001-10-19 17:04 ` Josh Huber
2001-10-19 19:46 ` Paul Jarc
2001-10-19 19:54 ` Paul Jarc
2001-10-19 20:05 ` Josh Huber
2001-10-19 20:50 ` Matt Armstrong
2001-10-19 21:12 ` Paul Jarc
2001-10-20 6:52 ` Josh Huber
2001-10-20 9:41 ` Per Abrahamsen
2001-10-21 0:58 ` Matt Armstrong
2001-10-19 20:16 ` Paul Jarc
2001-10-19 21:12 ` Josh Huber
2001-10-19 21:40 ` Paul Jarc
2001-10-20 6:25 ` Josh Huber
2001-10-19 17:51 ` Kai Großjohann
2001-10-19 18:23 ` Josh Huber
2001-10-19 20:31 ` Matt Armstrong
2001-10-19 20:53 ` Josh Huber
2001-10-19 22:28 ` Kai Großjohann
2001-10-19 23:58 ` Matt Armstrong
2001-10-20 10:56 ` Kai Großjohann
2001-10-20 11:19 ` ShengHuo ZHU
2001-10-20 4:47 ` Paul Jarc
2001-10-20 10:57 ` Kai Großjohann
2001-10-20 6:29 ` Josh Huber
2001-10-19 19:26 ` Matt Armstrong
2001-10-19 21:08 ` Kai Großjohann
2001-10-19 21:20 ` Kai Großjohann
2001-10-20 9:51 ` Per Abrahamsen
2001-10-20 10:59 ` Kai Großjohann
2001-10-19 16:31 ` Kai Großjohann
2001-10-18 16:59 ` Paul Jarc
2001-10-18 16:36 ` Josh Huber
2001-10-18 17:11 ` Paul Jarc
2001-10-18 17:56 ` Josh Huber
2001-10-18 18:52 ` Matt Armstrong
2001-10-18 19:11 ` Josh Huber
2001-10-18 19:29 ` Matt Armstrong
2001-10-18 19:27 ` Paul Jarc
2001-10-19 9:05 ` Kai Großjohann
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