File error (("Cannot open load file" "timer-funcs"))

File error (("Cannot open load file" "timer-funcs"))

[Maciej Matysiak]

Hello,

I've just updated my quite old cvs gnus and have problem with compiling it.
I'm missing the "timer-funcs" file and it's required by several other gnus
files. From changelog:

2005-01-26  Steve Youngs  <steve#sxemacs.org>
   * run-at-time.el: Removed.  It is no longer needed as timer-funcs.el
     in the xemacs-base package has a working version of `run-at-time'.

I'm using XEmacs from Debian Sarge. The packages on my system are:
 ii  xemacs21       21.4.16-1      Editor and kitchen sink
 ii  xemacs21-bases 2004.08.18-2   Editor and kitchen sink -- compiled elisp su
 ii  xemacs21-bin   21.4.16-1      Editor and kitchen sink -- support binaries
 ii  xemacs21-mule  21.4.16-1      Editor and kitchen sink -- Mule binary
 ii  xemacs21-mules 2004.08.18-2   Editor and kitchen sink -- Mule elisp suppor
 ii  xemacs21-suppo 21.4.16-1      Editor and kitchen sink -- architecture inde

There's no "timer-funcs" in the above packages, the only file with "timer"
in its name is: /usr/share/xemacs21/xemacs-packages/lisp/fsf-compat/timer.elc

Is it enough to get the "timer-funcs" file from more recent XEmacs and put it
somewhere in the load-path (at least until it appears in Debian packages)?



There's at least one more error during compilation:

While compiling the end of the data in file /home/phoner/gnus/lisp/encrypt.el:
  ** The following functions are not known to be defined: 
    password-read-and-add, password-cache-remove

 m.m.
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Re: File error (("Cannot open load file" "timer-funcs"))

[Steve Youngs]

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* Maciej Matysiak <phoner.ding@blah.pl> writes:

  > I've just updated my quite old cvs gnus and have problem with
  > compiling it.  I'm missing the "timer-funcs" file and it's
  > required by several other gnus files.

Update your packages. (I'm talking XEmacs packages, _not_ Linux
distribution packages).

  (Info-goto-node "(xemacs)Automatically")

timer-funcs.el is in the xemacs-base package.

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Re: File error (("Cannot open load file" "timer-funcs"))

[Maciej Matysiak]

On the 7th of February 2005 at 15:49, Steve Youngs <steve#youngs.au.com> wrote:

>> I've just updated my quite old cvs gnus and have problem with
>> compiling it.  I'm missing the "timer-funcs" file and it's
>> required by several other gnus files.
> Update your packages. (I'm talking XEmacs packages, _not_ Linux
> distribution packages).

Thank you, that helped. However now I get warnings during gnus startup:

(1) (warning/warning) Autoload error in:
/usr/share/xemacs21/xemacs-packages/lisp/xemacs-base/auto-autoloads:
        Already loaded

(2) (warning/warning) Autoload error in:
 /home/phoner/.xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/xemacs-base/auto-autoloads:
        Already loaded                                

I've added:
 (delete "/usr/share/xemacs21/xemacs-packages/lisp/xemacs-base" load-path)
to ~/.xemacs/init.el , but it didn't help.

Another thing: whenever I compose/reply to mail gnus beeps and says:
 Malformed list: emacs-gnus

Any ideas how to get rid of these problems?

 m.m.
-- 
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Re: File error (("Cannot open load file" "timer-funcs"))

[David S. Goldberg]

If you're getting packages from a different place than the default,
then

(setq inhibit-early-packages t)

at the top of .xemacs/init.el should solve the warnings.

-- 
Dave Goldberg
david.goldberg6@verizon.net

Re: File error (("Cannot open load file" "timer-funcs"))

[Maciej Matysiak]

On the 8th of February 2005 at 15:49, david.goldberg6#verizon.net (David S. Goldberg) wrote:

> If you're getting packages from a different place than the default,
> then
>
> (setq inhibit-early-packages t)
>
> at the top of .xemacs/init.el should solve the warnings.

That didn't help. But now I've started XEmacs with:
 xemacs -nw --no-early-packages
and the warnings are gone.

However, I still get `Malformed list: emacs-gnus' when I hit m/a/r/f in
summary buffer. And if I reply to an article, it's not marked as replied,
I have to M-x gnus-summary-mark-article-as-replied manually.

 m.m.
-- 
 use gnus, not guns!

Re: File error (("Cannot open load file" "timer-funcs"))

[Steve Youngs]

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* Maciej Matysiak <phoner.ding@blah.pl> writes:

  > On the 7th of February 2005 at 15:49, Steve Youngs <steve#youngs.au.com> wrote:
  >>> I've just updated my quite old cvs gnus and have problem with
  >>> compiling it.  I'm missing the "timer-funcs" file and it's
  >>> required by several other gnus files.
  >> Update your packages. (I'm talking XEmacs packages, _not_ Linux
  >> distribution packages).

  > Thank you, that helped. However now I get warnings during gnus startup:

  > (1) (warning/warning) Autoload error in:
  > /usr/share/xemacs21/xemacs-packages/lisp/xemacs-base/auto-autoloads:
  >         Already loaded

  > (2) (warning/warning) Autoload error in:
  >  /home/phoner/.xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/xemacs-base/auto-autoloads:
  >         Already loaded                                

You have got 2 versions of the xemacs-base package.  Delete one of
them.  Preferably the one that _doesn't_ have timer-funcs.el in it. :-)

  > I've added:
  >  (delete "/usr/share/xemacs21/xemacs-packages/lisp/xemacs-base" load-path)
  > to ~/.xemacs/init.el , but it didn't help.

Because your init.el file is read _after_ the auto-autoloads.el files
are loaded.

  > Another thing: whenever I compose/reply to mail gnus beeps and says:
  >  Malformed list: emacs-gnus

Not sure about this one, sorry.


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gnus-user-agent (was: File error (("Cannot open load file" "timer-funcs")))

[Reiner Steib]

On Tue, Feb 08 2005, Maciej Matysiak wrote:

> Another thing: whenever I compose/reply to mail gnus beeps and says:
>  Malformed list: emacs-gnus

This might be related to this change:

,----
| 2005-01-10  Reiner Steib  <Reiner.Steib@gmx.de>
| 
| 	* gnus.el (gnus-user-agent): Use list of symbols instead of
| 	symbols.  Display full version number for (S)XEmacs.  Optionally
| 	display (S)XEmacs codename.
| 
| 	* gnus-util.el (gnus-emacs-version): Update for new
| 	`gnus-user-agent'.
| 
| 	* gnus-msg.el (gnus-extended-version): Make it possible to omit
| 	Gnus version.
`----

Did you change/customize the variable `gnus-user-agent'?  Normally the
code after "Convert old (< 2005-01-10) symbol type values:" in gnus.el
should take care of this.

Which value(s) does the variable have (see `C-h v gnus-user-agent
RET') before starting Gnus and after Gnus has been loaded?

Please do `M-x toggle-debug-on-error RET', reproduce the problem and
show us the lisp backtrace.

Bye, Reiner.
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Re: gnus-user-agent

[Maciej Matysiak]

On the 8th of February 2005 at 19:22, Reiner Steib <reinersteib+gmane#imap.cc> wrote:

>>  Malformed list: emacs-gnus
> This might be related to this change:
> * gnus.el (gnus-user-agent): Use list of symbols instead of symbols.
>   Display full version number for (S)XEmacs.  Optionally display (S)XEmacs
>   codename.

Indeed.

> Did you change/customize the variable `gnus-user-agent'?

Yes. I've corrected it now to:
 (setq gnus-user-agent '(gnus emacs codename))

I apologize for not consulting the changelog before posting here. And
thank you for fast answer :)

 m.m. (can't wait for xemacs 2.4.17 in debian, this .16 makes me mad)
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Re: gnus-user-agent

[Reiner Steib]

On Tue, Feb 08 2005, Maciej Matysiak wrote:

> On the 8th of February 2005 at 19:22, Reiner Steib wrote:
[...]
>> Did you change/customize the variable `gnus-user-agent'?
>
> Yes. I've corrected it now to:
>  (setq gnus-user-agent '(gnus emacs codename))
>
> I apologize for not consulting the changelog before posting here. And
> thank you for fast answer :)

No need to apologize.  The code should be able to handle the
conversion without user action.  I wonder why it failed for you.
Could you please give me the informations I requested?

| Which value(s) does the variable have (see `C-h v gnus-user-agent
| RET') before starting Gnus and after Gnus has been loaded?
| 
| Please do `M-x toggle-debug-on-error RET', reproduce the problem and
| show us the lisp backtrace.

Bye, Reiner.
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Re: File error (("Cannot open load file" "timer-funcs"))

[David S. Goldberg]

Upgrade your packages with the latest sumo.  timer-funcs was
introduced into, I think, xemacs-base recently.
-- 
Dave Goldberg
david.goldberg6@verizon.net