From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/45966 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Jason R. Mastaler" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: new spam functionality added Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 20:05:00 -0600 Organization: Mastaler Systems Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <87y9brejam.fsf@mail.paradoxical.net> <873ctztyth.fsf@mail.paradoxical.net> Reply-To: jason-exp-1028943111.9e8a0a@mastaler.com NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1028253958 6965 127.0.0.1 (2 Aug 2002 02:05:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 02:05:58 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 17aRpF-0001oE-00 for ; Fri, 02 Aug 2002 04:05:57 +0200 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 17aRoo-000120-00; Thu, 01 Aug 2002 21:05:30 -0500 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Thu, 01 Aug 2002 21:05:57 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (qmailr@sclp3.sclp.com [209.196.61.66]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA13586 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 21:05:40 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: (qmail 8129 invoked by alias); 2 Aug 2002 02:05:06 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 8124 invoked from network); 2 Aug 2002 02:05:05 -0000 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org (80.91.224.249) by gnus.org with SMTP; 2 Aug 2002 02:05:05 -0000 Original-Received: from list by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 17aRno-0001mK-00 for ; Fri, 02 Aug 2002 04:04:28 +0200 Original-To: ding@gnus.org X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Received: from news by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 17aRnn-0001mC-00 for ; Fri, 02 Aug 2002 04:04:27 +0200 Original-Path: not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.ding Original-Lines: 28 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: nightshade.ccs.lanl.gov Original-X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1028253867 6830 128.165.148.67 (2 Aug 2002 02:04:27 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 02:04:27 +0000 (UTC) Mail-Copies-To: never X-Face: #JN"K)p-Mky0,q4z-q'nx@2'jKW&-H6Zd#yI{`^`.V[o.>Y\p0-^3n$@'_py$QXPq'}cwKS Rox9%`#q><8pXIR[yl\O%Dt!2"IO!ky$:F'{Q'%,6@;VRJPQ6UNLQ_8/'_+p4/Kft6 t=LIV%py%Z=Y6>c)p6>}>UV!)'hy(?U&#+v@68]f,COd8\sjfnl9y(BP1:^28|)QEr*LN/t{2%=1`h 9\lX,WxIjiCQ<3c7:>5!XIM7owXdaI:6SO`T2h^T,,Lq{8P=2]}4n3ZiT<@!9`j$R|wM52S+|DAj User-Agent: Gnus/5.090007 (Oort Gnus v0.07) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence, i386-unknown-freebsd4.5) Cancel-Lock: sha1:a6DBZh1KBclDHLHxk0kRpLyFYio= Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:45966 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:45966 Scott A Crosby writes: > Because its tragedy of the commons, I bitbucket any TMDA user. While I don't feel such animosity is warranted, I've heard it before, and understand where it's coming from. Unwillingness to accept the severity of the spam problem, and the fact that the Internet isn't the place it used to be. Like those who refuse to lock their front doors despite the changing climate of their neighborhood, because they never have before, and don't want to hear what the neighbors are saying. Unfortunately, boycotting TMDA users will do nothing to help the problem. You aren't teaching anyone a lesson with such behavior. Would it make you feel better if I uninstalled TMDA and went back to an unsavory e-mail experience? How about putting your energy into something productive such as working on a real solution to the problem instead of hurting those who have found some temporary relief? I never said TMDA was a solution to spam, it's morphine for the cancer patient. It alleviates some of my suffering, while I keep my eye on the prize, which is a real "cure". > (and if I start getting too many of em, I'll make a public blacklist > of em.) Who is going to respect a "public blacklist" filled with the names of those whom Scott has philosophical differences with. Please.