From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/44089 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Jason R. Mastaler" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Spam spam spam spam spam Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 12:37:58 -0700 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <87adsqxayl.fsf@enberg.org> <87bsd6dklh.fsf@enberg.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1017517142 19689 127.0.0.1 (30 Mar 2002 19:39:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 19:39:02 +0000 (UTC) Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 16rOgn-00057L-00 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 2002 20:39:01 +0100 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 16rOgA-0007AR-00; Sat, 30 Mar 2002 13:38:22 -0600 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Sat, 30 Mar 2002 13:38:28 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (qmailr@sclp3.sclp.com [209.196.61.66]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA20440 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 2002 13:38:16 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: (qmail 6006 invoked by alias); 30 Mar 2002 19:38:05 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 6001 invoked from network); 30 Mar 2002 19:38:04 -0000 Original-Received: from localhost (HELO nightshade.la.mastaler.com) (jason@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 30 Mar 2002 19:38:04 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 62088 invoked by uid 666); 30 Mar 2002 19:38:02 -0000 Mail-Followup-To: ding@gnus.org Original-To: ding@gnus.org Mail-Copies-To: never X-Face: 8_YlVpZ`}}8_dRi;)r*8:V(FGx&qd'^?vV0QU)K:U*b|Mh_'tpCo5%{^q>aazc-j*o2'&K0 ^wk,V?al4k"z'b~rJO<'#/SoG3bTB$i:{8X.?Z&@WmKf=f}5./dmcFJKWvW5U6ZS^8}%c$l.+yq+KN |NY4bRj*#)iR/m\Tb.W5I1B`jI'5U]u\N"LPx*2s0|(j}2P (Henrik Enberg's message of "Sat, 30 Mar 2002 18:35:54 +0100") Original-Lines: 25 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090006 (Oort Gnus v0.06) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence, i386-unknown-freebsd4.5) X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/0.49+ (Python 2.2 on FreeBSD-i386) Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:44089 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:44089 Henrik Enberg writes: > I said that it is rude to bounce messages not in your whitelist. TMDA doesn't bounce unconfirmed messages, it stores them in a local directory until they get confirmed. Think of the confirmation notice as similar to a mailing list confirmation request. > And I find it pretty rude to require confirmation aswell. And do you also think it's rude for a mailing list manager to require confirmation that your subscription request is legitimate? It's the same with TMDA. Confirm your address the first time, and you're done. In practice though, very few folks actually have to end up confirming their mail to me. Either they are already in my whitelist, or they are replying to a 'dated' address (such as the one I'm posting with). > By doing that you're forcing _others_ to deal with _your_ spam. Possibly, but I don't think having to reply to a single confirmation request is a big deal - especially since it's for a good cause . -- (http://tmda.sourceforge.net/)